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2026-01-23T17:51:43.905+00:00 — rhysc (@rhysc.)
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Hello, I have just recently found out about wafer.space through the process of searching for ways to complete a tapeout as part of a masters project. The wafer.space group seems to fit my needs of obtaining the raw dies at a lower cost. I was wondering if there is any idea of when the second run is planned to occur, as I am trying to plan out a timeline for the project and want to see if it will be feasible to work with the team here. Thanks!
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2026-01-23T18:10:06.214+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)
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Hello, afaik the tapeout deadline for run 2 is planned for around June. However, this may depend on when the chips of run 1 actually leave the fab.
@Tim 'mithro' Ansell may be able to give you a more definitive answer.
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2026-01-23T23:11:13.228+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)
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Yeah, it's looking like June - but still TBD.
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2026-02-09T17:12:00.778+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)
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I should start working on my new designs in earnest I guess! A lot sooner than I was thinking for some reason...probably best not to repeat the frantic finish-in-one-month sprint like the first run 😅
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2026-02-10T05:57:23.098+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)
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I have a spreadsheet @ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KD2Mn7s7WoZ738tmH0LNp_uvDCJVLOdqiyMbqEh0ApU/edit?gid=0#gid=0 - but expect dates to change as I have yet to get confirmation for the wafer out date from GF.
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2026-02-10T09:45:18.688+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)
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That's a good resolution, but it never works out. In practice, you always end up making last-minute changes 😆
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2026-02-10T10:00:14.968+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)
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Did GF confirm fab out now ?
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2026-02-10T23:26:46.91+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)
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😭 😂
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2026-02-14T03:43:03.361+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)
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I /think/ I got the wafers out late date yesterday but I won't be able to confirm until Monday that is what the date provided actually is.
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2026-02-17T16:05:27.495+00:00 — Thorben (@thorben_61995)
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In Run 2, will there be an opportunity to purchase larger slots than 1x1, like 2x1 or 2x2? Or would it mess up all the dicing/sorting?
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2026-02-17T21:58:15.749+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)
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They do mess up the dicing / sorting. I have been focusing on smaller slots. Do you actually have the funds for bigger slots?
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2026-02-18T12:01:26.339+00:00 — Thorben (@thorben_61995)
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That's a pity. Yes, we have funds for bigger prototypes and the 1x1 slot could not fit everything that I wanted. But of course I understand that it makes limited sense to accomodate larger slots if only one person is interested... Anyone else in need of more area in future runs?
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2026-02-22T02:15:01.108+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)
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What was your limit? There is plenty of work to improve things like typical place and route density and such
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2026-02-23T16:06:05.744+00:00 — Thorben (@thorben_61995)
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I already had a utilization of 65% with >400k standard cells (w/o the macros) and it fit about half the logic I wanted, so PnR improvements won't get me there. Proprietary synthesis would probably compress the logic quite a bit, but working with proprietary tools is not an option for this project. Except for larger slots I currently don't really see a solution. If it helps, I think we would be able to pay a reasonable premium for a larger slot and would not necessarily need as many samples.
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2026-02-23T16:22:42.52+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)
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Options I can think off the top of my head are :
* Switch to laser dicing
* Run more wafers and dice those just to separate those particular dies
* Switch an entire row / col to the larger format
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2026-02-23T16:37:20.199+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)
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Laser dicing would give us a lot of flexibility in mixing different slot sizes.
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2026-02-23T16:54:38.468+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)
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Who's doing the dicing ATM ? Is it GF themselves ?
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2026-02-27T07:48:11.985+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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2026-02-27T07:55:10.353+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)
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So far I have not found a cost effective laser dicing place.
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2026-03-06T18:09:49.674+00:00 — J-Lo (@crockpotveggies)
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell further to this discussion, I may also be interested in purchasing additional tiles in Run 2
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