Category: π - Designing
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2025-11-19T18:08:09.167+00:00 β BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)
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2025-11-19T18:08:10.04+00:00 β BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)
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Super cool!
Newbie question: why is the sdram exposed via pins? to allow loading the memory/program externally directly instead of over something like uart?
also what are the 20 some "blocks" in the image?
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2025-11-19T18:21:49.279+00:00 β asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)
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Great questions β SDRAM is external because this process node doesnβt offer large embedded DRAM, only small SRAM blocks.To run Linux you need external memory.
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2025-11-19T18:24:51.44+00:00 β BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)
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oooh right, makes sense!
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2025-11-19T18:41:23.893+00:00 β Tholin (@tholin)
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What kinda SDRAM can run at 5V?
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2025-11-19T18:54:11.672+00:00 β Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)
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It runs at 3.3V with 20MHz π
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2025-11-19T18:54:57.206+00:00 β Tholin (@tholin)
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How much RAM is required to boot mainline Linux? Like, at minimum?
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2025-11-19T18:55:21.71+00:00 β Tholin (@tholin)
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Iβve done it with as little as 16MiB, booting to busybox with 12MiB free. So could maybe do 8MiB.
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2025-11-19T19:20:17.395+00:00 β Tholin (@tholin)
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1Mx16 Dynamic RAM with 5V power supply:
https://www.issi.com/ww/pdf/41C16100.pdf
4 of these and you get your 8MiB for busybox on mainline Linux at a much higher clockspeed
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2025-11-19T19:21:01.555+00:00 β Tholin (@tholin)
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I highly doubt 20MHz at 3.3V is realistic without wait states. My own testing put the switching speed of the GPIOs at 12.5MHz at 3.3V.
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2025-11-19T20:22:01.699+00:00 β asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)
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I mean, I did build the Tiny Tapeout Micro Linux SoC. With that thing I could boot Linux with just 8 MB. The SoC should support IPv6 and IPv4 and be comfortable to use β not just boot BusyBox and call it a day. I want to do more with it: MicroPython, C++, NFS, all kinds of stuff.
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2025-11-19T20:31:12.694+00:00 β Tholin (@tholin)
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BusyBox + Lua is a decent setup for me on embedded
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2025-11-19T20:31:20.051+00:00 β Tholin (@tholin)
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(I strongly dislike python)
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2025-11-19T20:32:32.175+00:00 β asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)
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K
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2025-11-19T20:42:31.477+00:00 β Tholin (@tholin)
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But yeah, this project might be more interesting once we have a native 3.3V SCL and 3.3V IO pad structures.
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