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# Live delta: Working like a charm. PCB designs and

This group comes from a signed-in Discord search capture. These records were not
present in the public monthly JSON exports at the time this archive was built.

Parent/category shown by Discord search: **📦-cob**

Messages: **2**

## message-1538593174174441576

**2026-08-16T16:59:58.402Z — baragonaru**

- Message ID: `1538593174174441576`
- Guild ID: `1361349522684510449`
- Source: signed-in Discord server search DOM capture
- Timestamp: 2026-08-16T16:59:58.402Z
- Search group: Working like a charm. PCB designs and, 📦-cob

**Content**

```text
@Thorben  how are things going? any more good data gathered from the chip?
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## message-1539202198976729088

**2026-08-18T09:20:01.230Z — Thorben**

- Message ID: `1539202198976729088`
- Guild ID: `1361349522684510449`
- Source: signed-in Discord server search DOM capture
- Timestamp: 2026-08-18T09:20:01.230Z
- Search group: Working like a charm. PCB designs and, 📦-cob

**Content**

```text
Things are going well, thanks for asking. As usual it's a bit more quiet over the summer. But I did some early security evaluation of the chip and, in a nutshell, the countermeasures work great, the PUFs work well and the TRNGs need more tuning. There's a little bit of info in these slides from FSiC'26 https://wiki.f-si.org/images/1/15/Cloneless.pdf, but admittedly not much. In July I submitted an updated version of the chip to the second wafer space run which should already fix some issues and test new ideas https://github.com/ThorbenMoos/Cloneless2. I've also been shipping Cloneless1 samples to a bunch of people across the globe who expressed interest in doing some independent red teaming or imaging for reverse engineering.
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    "text": "https://github.com/ThorbenMoos/Cloneless2",
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