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# Thread: Tons of DRC issues
Category: **ℹ️ - Information**
Parent channel: **#⁉️-questions**
Thread ID: `1498100763388284938`
Messages: **130**
## message-1498100763388284938
**2026-04-26T23:17:35.358+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
- Message ID: `1498100763388284938`
- Author ID: `319853768550121473`
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- User name: thecomputerguy
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- Edited: 2026-04-26T23:19:17.428+00:00
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While working on https://github.com/MidstallSoftware/aegis/pull/21, I've seen all of these DRC issues and I am stuck:
```
26-Apr-2026 21:54:06 | ERROR | Violated rules are : {'M1.2b', 'V2.2a', 'M2.1', 'M4.2a', 'M1.2a', 'V1.1', 'M1.1', 'M3.2a', 'V2.1', 'M2.2a', 'M3.1', 'V1.3c', 'V1.2a'}
```
I'm not sure what I am doing wrong but it would be nice to have some help. I've been running my DRC via `nix build .#checks.aarch64-linux.luna-1-gds-verify` and producing the GDS via `nix build .#luna-1-tapeout`.
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## message-1498132580933963959
**2026-04-27T01:24:01.252+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498132580933963959`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
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```text
Try opening the gds in KLayout; `KLAYOUT_PATH=$PDK_ROOT/$PDK/libs.tech/klayout klayout`, then just open the file via the menu; you can then trigger the DRC by clicking run full drc in
```
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## message-1498132820806336522
**2026-04-27T01:24:58.442+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498132820806336522`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
- Type: `Default`
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```text
you might have to hit the rightmost one of these that says sky130a for me here (the drop-down button on the right edge of it) and select the option that isn't just "default".
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## message-1498133010359390369
**2026-04-27T01:25:43.635+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498133010359390369`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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```text
then maybe press that full Torx-shaped button with the T in the shape once after seelcting, before the DRC option in the main menu bar becomes available.
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## message-1498133275640856626
**2026-04-27T01:26:46.883+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498133275640856626`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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- Type: `Default`
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```text
You can then press on any individual line of the report and the offending segments show up in the layout view window as black lines; you can adjust colors and such on the right side of the report window.
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## message-1498153948282884097
**2026-04-27T02:48:55.625+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Huh? What would that do?
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## message-1498154049357353061
**2026-04-27T02:49:19.723+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
- Message ID: `1498154049357353061`
- Author ID: `319853768550121473`
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```text
Shouldn't I have this information in the log I got from KLayout running through the GDS?
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## message-1498156541860384909
**2026-04-27T02:59:13.982+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498156541860384909`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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Oh yeah if you have the log file you should be able to open it and view, like this:
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## message-1498156904327942285
**2026-04-27T03:00:40.401+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
- Message ID: `1498156904327942285`
- Author ID: `319853768550121473`
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Huh?
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## message-1498156910854275083
**2026-04-27T03:00:41.957+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498156910854275083`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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run DRC (custom), unselect all (make sure you're not gonna overwrite your nice log), top right file -> open, select the log, enjoy.
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## message-1498157170967973898
**2026-04-27T03:01:43.973+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498157170967973898`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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I'm assuming you don't want to search for the offending coordinates/shapes in the text files by hand, to try and make sense of what exactly the DRC log entries are blaming/complaining about.
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## message-1498157189561581618
**2026-04-27T03:01:48.406+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Do I have to use the GUI for this?
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## message-1498157599772639275
**2026-04-27T03:03:26.208+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498157599772639275`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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The DRC complaints only narrow down to which cell, and I'm not sure if they blame specific instances of a cell or only "all".
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**2026-04-27T03:08:08.412+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498158783422140486`
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The engine itself only really operates on (polygonal, for efficciency, but it might as well be literal as the outcome wouldn't change, just the runtime/memory usage) rasterized/bitmap-view of the GDS layers at the native coordinate quantization "pixel size", as the rules rely heavily on performing boolean operations between/across layers to determine things.
It unfortunately doesn't know what source shape caused the problem, only what edge/edge-pair (as in, location) caused the problem. If there are edges at that location from more than one layer you have to guess based on the rule's description which of the options it was.
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**2026-04-27T03:08:45.908+00:00 — namibj**
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Technically you can reason about the files without the GUI.
Have you found the file yet?
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**2026-04-27T03:11:04.073+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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I think so
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**2026-04-27T03:11:50.147+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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result-4/drc_output/layers_def.drc
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result-4/drc_output/luna_1_geom.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal5.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_via2.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal2.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/metal5.drc
result-4/drc_output/metal2.drc
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal3.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_via3.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/via2.drc
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_contact.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/geom.drc
result-4/drc_output/via4.drc
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_via1.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal1.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/via3.drc
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metaltop.lyrdb
result-4/drc_output/metal3.drc
result-4/drc_output/metal4.drc
result-4/drc.log
result-4/gds_check.log
```
I think it might be one of the `.drc` files?
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## message-1498159802705252524
**2026-04-27T03:12:11.428+00:00 — namibj**
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given it's named "output", I'd presume so.
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## message-1498159998109352036
**2026-04-27T03:12:58.016+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498159998109352036`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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can you show the first few hundred bytes or so of one of them, I'd start with the `rc_run_2026_04_26_21_21_23.log`?
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## message-1498160212169982122
**2026-04-27T03:13:49.052+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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That file is quite small
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## message-1498160222575792228
**2026-04-27T03:13:51.533+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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```
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## message-1498160266171388074
**2026-04-27T03:14:01.927+00:00 — namibj**
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This is one of the drc result formats that I've encountered; I'm not sure if this is the one you'd have.
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## message-1498160441099292842
**2026-04-27T03:14:43.633+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Oh, that's the `.lyrdb` files I have
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## message-1498160464335470612
**2026-04-27T03:14:49.173+00:00 — namibj**
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yeah I know it's not the same PDK
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## message-1498160529242591403
**2026-04-27T03:15:04.648+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Yeah
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## message-1498160575287660584
**2026-04-27T03:15:15.626+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Though I plan on using Sky130 in the future heh
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## message-1498160853340651672
**2026-04-27T03:16:21.919+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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There's a lot of V1.1 violations for Via1
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## message-1498160941240422400
**2026-04-27T03:16:42.876+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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> V1.1 : Min/max Via1 size . : 0.26µm
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## message-1498161025814626466
**2026-04-27T03:17:03.04+00:00 — namibj**
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this XML refers to the generator. This XML itself is a clean DRC result.
You should see content in the XML if you have that format.
I'd try grepping for a fragment of the XML that you'd expect to show up, like maybe the lydrc file as a string.
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## message-1498161254781681694
**2026-04-27T03:17:57.63+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Huh the `.drc` files I have are python
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## message-1498161526844952678
**2026-04-27T03:19:02.495+00:00 — namibj**
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if you violate that you're somehow creating vias that are not the size they should be, like, there's no room for options there, vias have exactly that size, and thus it's either some generator script thinking it knows better (unlikely unless you wrote something like that for this AegisFPGA), or somewhere a misconfig about coordinate system scaling.
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## message-1498161812766589050
**2026-04-27T03:20:10.664+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Shouldn't OpenROAD have done that automatically in the way the PDK wanted?
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## message-1498161823508201492
**2026-04-27T03:20:13.225+00:00 — namibj**
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See if you find `` at the end of any of those files
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## message-1498161929007534121
**2026-04-27T03:20:38.378+00:00 — namibj**
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sure, should, but vias don't tend to just malform themselves.
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## message-1498162021336743936
**2026-04-27T03:21:00.391+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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```
$ grep -r "" result-4/drc_output
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal4.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_via4.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_geom.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal5.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_via2.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal2.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal3.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_via3.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_contact.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_via1.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metal1.lyrdb:
result-4/drc_output/luna_1_metaltop.lyrdb:
```
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## message-1498162088202473522
**2026-04-27T03:21:16.333+00:00 — namibj**
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great, so that's probably the files of interest.
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## message-1498162111216488501
**2026-04-27T03:21:21.82+00:00 — namibj**
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- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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`result-4/drc_output/luna_1_via1.lyrdb`?
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## message-1498162142732353678
**2026-04-27T03:21:29.334+00:00 — namibj**
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If it's not secret ofc
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## message-1498162369195540511
**2026-04-27T03:22:23.327+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Oh, that's 56kb
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## message-1498162619826307113
**2026-04-27T03:23:23.082+00:00 — namibj**
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yeah a bunch of your errors
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## message-1498162669948244121
**2026-04-27T03:23:35.032+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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````text
```
V1.1
V1.1 : Min/max Via1 size . : 0.26µm
V1.2a
V1.2a : min. via1 spacing : 0.26µm
V1.2b
V1.2b : Via1 Space in 4x4 or larger via1 array : 0.36µm
V1.3a
V1.3a : metal1 overlap of via1 >= 0.0
V1.3c
V1.3c : metal1 (< 0.34um) end-of-line overlap. (Applies to all < 0.34µm wide Metal lines,
excluding Metal branches shorter than 0.28µm.) : 0.06µm
V1.3d
V1.3d : If metal1 overlap via1 by < 0.04um on one side, adjacent metal1 edges overlap. : 0.06µm
V1.4a
V1.4a : metal2 overlap of via1 >= 0.01 um
V1.4b
V1.4p : metal2 (< 0.34um) end-of-line overlap. (Applies to all < 0.34µm wide Metal lines,
excluding Metal branches shorter than 0.28µm.) : 0.06µm
V1.4c
V1.4c : If metal2 overlap via1 by < 0.04um on one side, adjacent metal2 edges overlap. : 0.06µm
```
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## message-1498162687727767664
**2026-04-27T03:23:39.271+00:00 — namibj**
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- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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```text
if you open the GDS you can just load it or you can look at it's contents more programmatically
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## message-1498162755189080164
**2026-04-27T03:23:55.355+00:00 — namibj**
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yeah that's just the header/legend 😄
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## message-1498162761543188532
**2026-04-27T03:23:56.87+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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```text
I have the GDS open on my laptop in KLayout
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## message-1498162798952452176
**2026-04-27T03:24:05.789+00:00 — namibj**
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you can feed this file in then
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## message-1498162800433037343
**2026-04-27T03:24:06.142+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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How do I open the lyrdb file?
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## message-1498162918691442698
**2026-04-27T03:24:34.337+00:00 — namibj**
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- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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```text
can you show me the menu bar? Or rather, what's teh right most main menu bar name?
```
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## message-1498163096328470661
**2026-04-27T03:25:16.689+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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- Author ID: `319853768550121473`
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```text
```
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## message-1498163177693777921
**2026-04-27T03:25:36.088+00:00 — namibj**
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- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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```text
actually, try "Tools -> Marker Browser"
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## message-1498163257574293647
**2026-04-27T03:25:55.133+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Ah cool, that looks promising
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## message-1498163364810063914
**2026-04-27T03:26:20.7+00:00 — namibj**
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you might want to point klayout at the PDK path though
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## message-1498163442132062258
**2026-04-27T03:26:39.135+00:00 — namibj**
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- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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e.g. `KLAYOUT_PATH=$PDK_ROOT/$PDK/libs.tech/klayout klayout -e`
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## message-1498163490077147247
**2026-04-27T03:26:50.566+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1498163490077147247`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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(if using ciel)
```
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## message-1498163494275514442
**2026-04-27T03:26:51.567+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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## message-1498163714925400196
**2026-04-27T03:27:44.174+00:00 — namibj**
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```text
yeah you select a row possibly after expanding a folded one, and while a row is selected/highlighted, you'll see them highlighted as lines in the layout view window
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**2026-04-27T03:28:12.714+00:00 — namibj**
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(SerDes? Noice....)
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**2026-04-27T03:28:38.878+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Cool, I see it
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**2026-04-27T03:29:06.83+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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https://github.com/Midstall/aegis/pull/21/changes#diff-297415984077469f4bd6bc71cb8e9dc8615316b804cca6335ca1b89eecaaccf1 I'll have to change something here I think to fix it
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**2026-04-27T03:30:44.618+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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I'm not exactly sure what I need to do to fix this
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**2026-04-27T03:38:50.587+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Ah, OpenROAD stopped short on iterating. I wonder if increasing the routing iterations would fix a lot of problems.
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## message-1498168008424554507
**2026-04-27T03:44:47.824+00:00 — namibj**
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auto routing "gave up" before finishing into a state where it passed LVS to the point where it at least thinks it has finished routing the entire netlist it was tasked with?
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## message-1498168286720950352
**2026-04-27T03:45:54.175+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Idk, I've tried doing LVS but I skipped LVS because it caused the DRC + LVS job to run for like 30 hours
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## message-1498168429583138906
**2026-04-27T03:46:28.236+00:00 — namibj**
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LVS comes after DRC (personally; this is not inherently strict but some DRC fails will result in bogus LVS)
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**2026-04-27T03:47:33.289+00:00 — namibj**
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note you probably want to exempt "casual" LVS from operating at granularity below the standard cell "abstract block with ports and nominal behavior/named-behavior", at least in usual design loop.
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**2026-04-27T03:48:05.332+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Oh
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**2026-04-27T03:49:57.852+00:00 — namibj**
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no sadly don't know how
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**2026-04-27T03:50:27.479+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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This is my first design so idk how either lol
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**2026-04-27T03:50:41.53+00:00 — namibj**
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I'd suggest you tell openroad to not give up so soon; it might have been tuned for tiles that are substantially less packed vs. your FPGA.
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**2026-04-27T03:50:52.332+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Yeah
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**2026-04-27T03:51:19.893+00:00 — namibj**
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Like I read mention of that yesterday but don't even remember for which tool let alone in what docs.
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## message-1498169769935896679
**2026-04-27T03:51:47.801+00:00 — namibj**
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(And I don't need to for my tiny 1x2 analog tile on ttsky26a.)
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**2026-04-27T03:53:12.488+00:00 — namibj**
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(....can you link the actual analog PLL that is mentioned by the code in your repo? I'd like to look at it this evening a little bit for some dose of inspiration.)
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**2026-04-27T03:56:16.845+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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## message-1498173500140290231
**2026-04-27T04:06:37.151+00:00 — namibj**
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No I found that.
But that's not doing PLL.
It's _wrapping,_ sure, but it's not _doing_ PLL.
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## message-1498173726364139540
**2026-04-27T04:07:31.087+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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:SubaThink:
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## message-1498174406768201768
**2026-04-27T04:10:13.308+00:00 — namibj**
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PLL is some sort of oscillating thingy that can be somehow controlled, and is somehow phase-compared to some kind of reference, and what makes it PLL is that these two things (the "controllable oscillator" and the "oscillator [output] phase comparing to reference") are wired into a control _loop._
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## message-1498174661538873404
**2026-04-27T04:11:14.05+00:00 — namibj**
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If correctly designed/configured, it then has to actually manage to _lock_ to deserve the title of "Phase-**Locked** Loop".
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## message-1498174804552056913
**2026-04-27T04:11:48.147+00:00 — namibj**
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(I don't want to keep you from finishing the FPGA into a functional state in time for the WS Run2 deadline.)
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## message-1498176316074364998
**2026-04-27T04:17:48.522+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Yeah, I'm just wrapping the one from the PDK for simplicity
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## message-1498178400580403261
**2026-04-27T04:26:05.507+00:00 — namibj**
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....there is one in the PDK? (I tried and failed to find one, but maybe I searched wrong)
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## message-1498178959760953364
**2026-04-27T04:28:18.826+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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`gf180mcu_fd_pr__pll.sym` lol
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## message-1498179225218191541
**2026-04-27T04:29:22.116+00:00 — namibj**
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....that's a symbol, not an actual thing. It's just an abstract placeholder for a schematic.
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## message-1498179657374367876
**2026-04-27T04:31:05.15+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Oh
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## message-1498188906972184626
**2026-04-27T05:07:50.426+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Leo Moser (mole99) - Dunno if you have any ideas about this?
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## message-1498208034319761570
**2026-04-27T06:23:50.741+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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The vias are indeed of a fixed size, so the only issues I can think of are that the manufacuring grid is not set correctly (everything is scaled by a factor of 5), or there is some other setup issue.
I suggest checking the wafers.space [gf180mcu-project-template](https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu-project-template) against your custom set up.
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## message-1498372713121579118
**2026-04-27T17:18:13.227+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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I've been checking what I have vs the template. I might've forgotten about PDN lol
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## message-1499070581201440869
**2026-04-29T15:31:17.943+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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- Edited: 2026-04-29T15:40:06.913+00:00
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Hmm, 0 violations in OpenROAD's DRC but KLayout says like 3.5k
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## message-1499072923909099723
**2026-04-29T15:40:36.488+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell which DRC is more believable?
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## message-1499074212659466300
**2026-04-29T15:45:43.75+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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You need to pass KLayout DRC in order to tape out. OpenROAD only has an abstract view of the cells and routing.
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## message-1499074556583874571
**2026-04-29T15:47:05.748+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Oh. Most of my KLayout DRC violations are on metal1, 2.2k.
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## message-1499078869523763331
**2026-04-29T16:04:14.033+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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I don't think I'll be able to get the early bird deadline. Everything I try to do does not fix the DRC violations. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong and idk how to fix the violations.
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## message-1499119206417957025
**2026-04-29T18:44:31.098+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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You should be able to buy a slot even if you don't have the design ready yet.
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## message-1499119265528287292
**2026-04-29T18:44:45.191+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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As for the DRC violations, if you could share your current layout, I can take a quick look to see what's going on.
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## message-1499127150933053500
**2026-04-29T19:16:05.218+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Like the GDS file?
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## message-1499127338074509322
**2026-04-29T19:16:49.836+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Cool, hopefully I can do that soon.
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## message-1499131175229460530
**2026-04-29T19:32:04.685+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Yes
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## message-1499134726781272219
**2026-04-29T19:46:11.441+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Cool, here you go
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## message-1499169625039175820
**2026-04-29T22:04:51.834+00:00 — bailey (@bailey8889)**
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It looks to me like all the metal layers have been removed from the standard cells and merged at the top level. This appears to be result in power shorts and very thin metal1 maybe due to resizing. See screenshot.
I don't think that this will be easy to extract with open source tools.
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## message-1499172534367813742
**2026-04-29T22:16:25.472+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Fun, lemme try something
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## message-1499172766044131498
**2026-04-29T22:17:20.708+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Gonna drop the `pkgs/aegis-tapeout/scripts/drc_repair.py` script
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## message-1499242952768225320
**2026-04-30T02:56:14.527+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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I have this now btw
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## message-1499261902562525296
**2026-04-30T04:11:32.51+00:00 — bailey (@bailey8889)**
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Looks like the standard cell rows are missing filler cells. Can you confirm?
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## message-1499262268196524043
**2026-04-30T04:12:59.684+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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I think I see standard cells, what exactly are standard cell rows?
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## message-1499262720787218503
**2026-04-30T04:14:47.59+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Ah, sounds like I need to run `filler_placement`?
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## message-1499266134938222654
**2026-04-30T04:28:21.587+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Cool, I've added that in
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## message-1499266295374544906
**2026-04-30T04:28:59.838+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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KLayout is getting a little slow
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## message-1499267401441742951
**2026-04-30T04:33:23.545+00:00 — bailey (@bailey8889)**
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Better, but still not seeing power grid connections to all the macros or cell rows.
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## message-1499267615250579498
**2026-04-30T04:34:14.521+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Weird, I did do the PDN stuff
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**2026-04-30T04:34:46.309+00:00 — bailey (@bailey8889)**
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Are you using librelane or OpenROAD directly?
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**2026-04-30T04:35:02.957+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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OpenROAD directly and orchestrated through Nix.
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**2026-04-30T04:35:17.927+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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The OpenROAD scripts are generated from Dart.
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## message-1499268039579799582
**2026-04-30T04:35:55.689+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Do I need to do `define_pdn_grid`?
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## message-1499272276917616772
**2026-04-30T04:52:45.949+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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aegis-top-pnr-luna_> [INFO PDN-0001] Inserting grid: macro_grid - io_fabric/lut_fabric/tile_325
aegis-top-pnr-luna_> [INFO PDN-0001] Inserting grid: macro_grid - io_fabric/lut_fabric/tile_326
aegis-top-pnr-luna_> [INFO PDN-0001] Inserting grid: macro_grid - io_fabric/lut_fabric/tile_327
aegis-top-pnr-luna_> [INFO PDN-0001] Inserting grid: macro_grid - io_fabric/lut_fabric/tile_328
aegis-top-pnr-luna_> [INFO PDN-0001] Inserting grid: macro_grid - io_fabric/lut_fabric/tile_329
aegis-top-pnr-luna_> [INFO PDN-0001] Inserting grid: macro_grid - io_fabric/lut_fabric/tile_33
aegis-top-pnr-luna_> [INFO PDN-0001] Inserting grid: macro_grid - io_fabric/lut_fabric/tile_330
aegis-top-pnr-luna_> [INFO PDN-0001] Inserting grid: macro_grid - io_fabric/lut_fabric/tile_331
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This seems promising
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## message-1499273853401170030
**2026-04-30T04:59:01.812+00:00 — bailey (@bailey8889)**
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TBH, what you're are attempting is beyond my level of experience.
What I've seen in the past, is that hard macros have their own power grid with the top metal layer one lower than the max. (metal4 in this case). Since metal 4 is a vertical layer, you should be able to have the power grid for the macros, connect directly to metal1 through a metal1-via-metal2-via2-metal3-via3-metal4 stack at the metal1 power rail for each cell row. How many metal4 power rails you use depends on the width of the macro. Since you need metal4 routing over the macros, you'll want to be careful where you place the power rails.
Some of the macros currently have metal5, and while that may be doable, I suggest the top metal routing layer be limited to metal4.
Next you need to design your top level power gird so that both power and ground horizontal metal5 power lines intersect with all the hard macros. The top power grid will be vertical metal4 and horizontal metal5. In this case, metal4 power rails are not generally routed over macros that already have metal4 power rails.
Another consideration is the power connections for the standard cell rows placed between the macros. Normally, the metal1 power rails in these standard cells is connected to metal4 power rails at the top level, but in your case, these rows are narrow and may not intersect with the power grid. You may want to consider setting these regions as no cell placement.
Also noticed that you are using fill cells and not fillcap cells. fillcap cells add capacitance between the power and ground lines for better stability.
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## message-1499274045911334992
**2026-04-30T04:59:47.71+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Alright. Thank you for the help though.
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## message-1499307985976037497
**2026-04-30T07:14:39.652+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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I can only repeat what bailey said. The power connections are missing, and decap cells would be better than fillcaps.
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## message-1499308004586295327
**2026-04-30T07:14:44.089+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Independent of that, your layout is missing a padring and a sealring. This is your interface to the outside world.
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## message-1499308036181852180
**2026-04-30T07:14:51.622+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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## message-1499308055945543824
**2026-04-30T07:14:56.334+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Here is your layout alongside the gf180mcu project template.
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## message-1499308094658838608
**2026-04-30T07:15:05.564+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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I would recommend implementing the gf180mcu project template and comparing the output with your setup.
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**2026-04-30T18:54:35.182+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Cool, will see what that can do for me. Thanks. I'm not really familiar with LibreLane or any of this stuff so this has been quite new for me. Hopefully I can integrate some of this trial and error into my asix and harbor repos which help out for ASIC/FPGA design/dev.
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## message-1501433182111928441
**2026-05-06T03:59:25.895+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Switched to trying LibreLane, it's been running for 12 hours and it's at PP.5a for klayout lol
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## message-1501605887188664331
**2026-05-06T15:25:41.994+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Total time is 14 hours and 21 minutes. I had to reduce the tile count to fit correctly. I'm going to try to scale it back up to cram as much as I can.
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## message-1501611294447374467
**2026-05-06T15:47:11.185+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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That runtime will hopefully be reduced considerably with the KLayout DRC update that should soon be merged.
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## message-1501611558122422404
**2026-05-06T15:48:14.05+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Great, yeah it was 8 hours of KLayout lol
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## message-1501733854019326062
**2026-05-06T23:54:11.664+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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That is always the way.
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## message-1501734114854961183
**2026-05-06T23:55:13.852+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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Yeah, I found that out the hard way lol.
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## message-1501734186992664608
**2026-05-06T23:55:31.051+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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The good thing is I think soon I should be ready to submit to wafer.space
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## message-1505716776795901983
**2026-05-17T23:40:54.453+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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LibreLane gave me a good DRC and everything
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## message-1505716883691802675
**2026-05-17T23:41:19.939+00:00 — The Computer Guy (@thecomputerguy)**
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