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# Thread: Pin Placement
Category: **ℹ️ - Information**
Parent channel: **#⁉️-questions**
Thread ID: `1444418732343427175`
Messages: **9**
## message-1444418732343427175
**2025-11-29T20:04:21.793+00:00 — Buck (@buck_042)**
- Message ID: `1444418732343427175`
- Author ID: `839883081896689765`
- Nickname: Buck
- User name: buck_042
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444418732343427175
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**Content**
```text
Hi all. I’m using the template project to PnR some small digital modules and plan to integrate them into a larger analog block. I’m not using the template configs, just the Librelane environment.
I have a question: how can I more precisely customize pin locations? Is there any script or config that lets me specify the absolute position of each pin on the floorplan? With pin_order.cfg I can only spread pins evenly along one side.
Any help will be appreciated.
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## message-1444429809227923556
**2025-11-29T20:48:22.728+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1444429809227923556`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444429809227923556
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**Content**
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The easiest is to the the "DEF template" feature. See FP_DEF_TEMPLATE.
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## message-1444429848188813537
**2025-11-29T20:48:32.017+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1444429848188813537`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444429848188813537
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**Content**
```text
Then you can write a DEF that define exact positions of the pins you want.
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## message-1444464425275883632
**2025-11-29T23:05:55.837+00:00 — Buck (@buck_042)**
- Message ID: `1444464425275883632`
- Author ID: `839883081896689765`
- Nickname: Buck
- User name: buck_042
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444464425275883632
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%E2%84%B9%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Information/%E2%81%89%EF%B8%8F-questions/pin-placement/2025-11/2025-11.json
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**Content**
```text
Thank you! Are there any DEF template files that I can use as a reference?
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## message-1444608239756120215
**2025-11-30T08:37:23.881+00:00 — bailey (@bailey8889)**
- Message ID: `1444608239756120215`
- Author ID: `738396032295108721`
- Nickname: bailey
- User name: bailey8889
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444608239756120215
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**Content**
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@Buck the caravel's user_project_wrapper uses one. https://github.com/chipfoundry/caravel_user_project/blob/main/openlane/user_project_wrapper/fixed_dont_change/user_project_wrapper_gf180mcu.def
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## message-1444609370460782592
**2025-11-30T08:41:53.462+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1444609370460782592`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444609370460782592
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https://github.com/TinyTapeout/tt-support-tools/blob/main/tech/gf180mcuD/def/tt_block_1x1_pgvdd.def
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## message-1444609428199575654
**2025-11-30T08:42:07.228+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1444609428199575654`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444609428199575654
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Tiny Tapeout above also use some and they're pretty minimal.
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## message-1444740867431862433
**2025-11-30T17:24:24.783+00:00 — Buck (@buck_042)**
- Message ID: `1444740867431862433`
- Author ID: `839883081896689765`
- Nickname: Buck
- User name: buck_042
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444740867431862433
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**Content**
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Thank for everyone's help!
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## message-1444742078377492501
**2025-11-30T17:29:13.495+00:00 — Egor Lukyanchenko (@egorxe)**
- Message ID: `1444742078377492501`
- Author ID: `709384666909507634`
- Nickname: Egor Lukyanchenko
- User name: egorxe
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-11-30T17:31:14.039+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1444418732343427175/1444742078377492501
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%E2%84%B9%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Information/%E2%81%89%EF%B8%8F-questions/pin-placement/2025-11/2025-11.json
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**Content**
```text
If you have an abstract LEF (for example after LibreLane run with pin placement you would like to fix) you could easily make a template DEF from it with magic, [like this](https://github.com/egorxe/gf180mcu-sram-wrappers/blob/main/utils/magic_def.tcl).
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