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# Thread: featherlane-PEX
Category: **ℹ️ - Information**
Parent channel: **#general**
Thread ID: `1525667356469231717`
Messages: **113**
## message-1525667363998138420
**2026-07-12T00:57:25.106+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525667363998138420`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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**Content**
```text
the big one is up to "Extracting VSS" now.
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## message-1525674372461760593
**2026-07-12T01:25:16.054+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525674372461760593`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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**Content**
```text
yeah so that's definitely not the linear solver I want to use with that behavior.... _I think ?_
```
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## message-1525674418272075806
**2026-07-12T01:25:26.976+00:00 — namibj**
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- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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```text
```
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## message-1525678538252882061
**2026-07-12T01:41:49.256+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525678538252882061`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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```text
@Tholin results
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## message-1525678733791465522
**2026-07-12T01:42:35.876+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525678733791465522`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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If you have amendments to this file, now's the time, to get results before sleepy time.
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## message-1525681631518789663
**2026-07-12T01:54:06.748+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525681631518789663`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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on second thought, I'm gonna take the scarce hours of cold to sleep sooner than later, not gonna be that long anyways, and afterwards the big circuit should maybe be done.
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## message-1525681785399152710
**2026-07-12T01:54:43.436+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525681785399152710`
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(done extracting, that is)
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## message-1525914472328462376
**2026-07-12T17:19:20.323+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525914472328462376`
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@Tholin errrrr, this got 87 mA?
```
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## message-1525914742798159882
**2026-07-12T17:20:24.808+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1525914742798159882`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
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Oh
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## message-1525914887539396769
**2026-07-12T17:20:59.317+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
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I wonder if its because the latches have initialized into a metastable state
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## message-1525915007492030544
**2026-07-12T17:21:27.916+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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87 mA doesn’t feel like a short
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## message-1525915159053336697
**2026-07-12T17:22:04.051+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I wish I could simulate a few clock cycles
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## message-1525915237596008549
**2026-07-12T17:22:22.777+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1525915237596008549`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
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The best thing I can suggest for a DC analysis is pulling clk_n high
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## message-1525915798005092463
**2026-07-12T17:24:36.389+00:00 — namibj**
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it should be solving until they stabilize; I'm running with the other solver from earlier again to check though.
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## message-1525915872651116635
**2026-07-12T17:24:54.186+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525915872651116635`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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Feel free to compare the voltages between the two `.prn` files to see if they may be meaningfully different.
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## message-1525916767824777286
**2026-07-12T17:28:27.612+00:00 — namibj**
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Feel free to edit this into a smol testbench for that; think about `MINTIMESTEPSBP` and the tolerance tunables please to dial in a minimum of actually to-be-taken timesteps that would still be expected to give meaningful results.
A full nonlin solve there didn't take _thaaaat_ long:
```
***** Solution Summary *****
Number Successful Steps Taken: 1
Number Failed Steps Attempted: 0
Number Jacobians Evaluated: 362
Number Linear Solves: 362
Number Failed Linear Solves: 0
Number Linear Solver Iterations: 70583
Number Residual Evaluations: 373
Number Nonlinear Convergence Failures: 0
Total Residual Load Time: 78.2002 seconds
Total Jacobian Load Time: 61.0558 seconds
Total Linear Solution Time: 1952.14 seconds
***** Total Simulation Solvers Run Time: 2152.39 seconds
***** Total Elapsed Run Time: 2247.1 seconds
*****
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## message-1525917496098558052
**2026-07-12T17:31:21.246+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I’m not sure if there are any syntax differences with xyce
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## message-1525918360762712076
**2026-07-12T17:34:47.398+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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But, in theory, all you need to do is update the beginning of the input stimulus section to
```
*** 5. INPUT STIMULUS ***
V_clk clk VSS PULSE( 0 3.3 0 0.1ns 0.1ns 50ns 200ns )
V_clk_n clk_n VSS PULSE( 0 3.3 100ns 0.1ns 0.1ns 50ns 200ns )
V_rst_n rst_n VSS PULSE( 0 3.3 375ns 0.1ns 0.1ns 5us 6us )
V_rst_override_n rst_override_n VSS PULSE( 0 3.3 375ns 0.1ns 0.1ns 5us 6us )
```
And then run that for a few clock cycles and observe the outputs. This is set up for a 5us long run.
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## message-1525918458846384168
**2026-07-12T17:35:10.783+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I tried this in ngspice and it just never even started
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## message-1525924727342764082
**2026-07-12T18:00:05.309+00:00 — namibj**
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feel free to check; notably btw. I've thought you _might_ want to use `.option timeint ERROPTION=1` to explicitly **not** use the classic SPICE "local truncation error", but instead just adjust step size based on how many newton (or whatever nonlinear solver was selected) iterations it took to turn the predictor's (the trapezoidal/backwards-euler/2nd-order-gear time integration forward-model) estimate of the solution variable's values (e.g. node voltages and a bunch of (internal) port currents) into a new solution that is newly compliant with all the non-linear device interaction models up to the configured tolerances (absolute, relative, and what the scale reference is for "relative"; sadly AFAIK there's no straight-forward way to distinguish between current and voltage quantities for that config option, which would be IMO fairly relevant for abstol as e.g. tolerance better than like a single millivolt is probably not required for this type of circuit if one wants to check against DOA and isn't trying to do fancy calibration stuff; also not to forget update-norm and unweighted l2-norm of the residual which are also tunables for deeming the nonlinear solve "sufficciently converged").
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## message-1525926691137130597
**2026-07-12T18:07:53.514+00:00 — namibj**
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I can mint you a rawfile that you can use with the xschem-integrated viewer. I'd suggest you take a single standard cell from your library, let me run it through the PEX extractor script, and let me hand you a starter-pack Xyce testbench for it (half machine-generated per your wishes as to the excitation pattern for it, but then substantially manually checked by me for not being broken and actually tested), if you want.
Also, if you can generate me a `.gds` flattened as much as this and with no stray labels littered around, you are then allowed to _have labels on internal nets of interest_ or I'd guess there would be some way from the LVS machinery to slap semantically meaningful labels on nets and/or devices.
I'll see to get a `.nodeset`-based initial conditions dump next run which should make it much faster to jump in and test things.
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## message-1525955999708745929
**2026-07-12T20:04:21.222+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Hold on, I’m trying again with ngspice
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## message-1525956119338422272
**2026-07-12T20:04:49.744+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I flattened the layout in magic before extracting it, maybe that helps
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## message-1525961079094644816
**2026-07-12T20:24:32.242+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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It did it!
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## message-1525961156496195734
**2026-07-12T20:24:50.696+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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And oh man am I happy I tested this because there is a breaking bug in the RTL that I see now
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## message-1525967490604073071
**2026-07-12T20:50:00.865+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I also see the 87mA static current consumption. Not sure what’s up with that.
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## message-1525976551269863454
**2026-07-12T21:26:01.096+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I ran a simulation on a LibreLane generated layout. Less standard cells in it, but still had a ~9mA static current consumption.
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## message-1525976698632273920
**2026-07-12T21:26:36.23+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Possible that its an issue with my SCL? Or the 3.3V FETs have that much of a leakage current?
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## message-1525976857810571415
**2026-07-12T21:27:14.181+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Because it roughly scales up to the 87mA consumption by standard cell count
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## message-1525982137805705387
**2026-07-12T21:48:13.03+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Cursed spice deck just containing 3000 buff_16s with the input tied low seems to suggest leakage
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## message-1525983162079907890
**2026-07-12T21:52:17.236+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Whoa! what the hell? It freaks the hell out if I instantiate 4000 fillcap cells!
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## message-1525983307018272939
**2026-07-12T21:52:51.792+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I guess its the inrush?
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## message-1525983319177826384
**2026-07-12T21:52:54.691+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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It crashed, btw
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## message-1525983350550958234
**2026-07-12T21:53:02.171+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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It was supposed to run for much longer
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## message-1525983693452218498
**2026-07-12T21:54:23.925+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I also noticed that well tap cells extract into.... nothing. Like, empty spice file. So, what exactly is energizing the wells during these simulations, then?
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## message-1525989310334242994
**2026-07-12T22:16:43.094+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I don’t think I have the time to figure out why the static current consumption on my SCL is so high
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## message-1525989342181593089
**2026-07-12T22:16:50.687+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
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**Content**
```text
I’m just going to have to tape out and pray
```
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## message-1525991699430772818
**2026-07-12T22:26:12.699+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525991699430772818`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525991699430772818
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**Content**
```text
> . The P(*) and W(*) wildcards are supported for analysis
> modes (TRAN and DC) that support power calculations.
YAY
```
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## message-1525997090541666395
**2026-07-12T22:47:38.04+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1525997090541666395`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525997090541666395
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**Content**
```text
Not sure how to approach this. If it is one specific cell that is at fault, it might be somewhat difficult to find.
```
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## message-1525997115132612879
**2026-07-12T22:47:43.903+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525997115132612879`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525997115132612879
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```text
I'm back on the settings that did the fast results.
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## message-1525997248482246836
**2026-07-12T22:48:15.696+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1525997248482246836`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525997248482246836
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**Content**
```text
I’m going to leave my computer running overnight to see if I can get a analysis done on a extract with parasitics
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## message-1525997368015585311
**2026-07-12T22:48:44.195+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525997368015585311`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525997368015585311
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**Reply/reference**
- https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525997090541666395
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```text
Going by earlier processing speed, we should have info in about 30~40 minutes which extracted device(s) are to blame for the power dissipation.
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---
## message-1525997425892917359
**2026-07-12T22:48:57.994+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525997425892917359`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
- Type: `Default`
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**Content**
```text
I'm not doing transient here btw.
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## message-1525997522479218738
**2026-07-12T22:49:21.022+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525997522479218738`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525997522479218738
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%E2%84%B9%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Information/general/featherlane-pex/2026-07/2026-07.json
**Reply/reference**
- https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525997248482246836
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```text
Can you share the testbench spice?
```
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---
## message-1525997755330203739
**2026-07-12T22:50:16.538+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1525997755330203739`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525997755330203739
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**Reply/reference**
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```text
And/or that for this mentioned smaller/"more minimized" SCL-bug-reproducer?
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---
## message-1525998210466975744
**2026-07-12T22:52:05.051+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1525998210466975744`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525998210466975744
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**Content**
```text
I just extracted with
`extract all;ext2sim labels on;ext2sim;extresist tolerance 10;extresist;ext2spice lvs;ext2spice cthresh 0;ext2spice extresist on;ext2spice;`
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---
## message-1525998672733671474
**2026-07-12T22:53:55.264+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1525998672733671474`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
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- Type: `Default`
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**Content**
```text
This seems to pull 7.5mA static
```
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---
## message-1525999237547036854
**2026-07-12T22:56:09.926+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1525999237547036854`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1525999237547036854
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**Content**
```text
Inputs low
```
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## message-1526004678813421608
**2026-07-12T23:17:47.225+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526004678813421608`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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- Type: `Default`
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**Content**
```text
Here ya go!
```
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---
## message-1526005316523655198
**2026-07-12T23:20:19.267+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526005316523655198`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1526005316523655198
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**Content**
```text
I decided to be funny and re-run the flow of secret_message with all logic cells disabled in my SCL except NAND and NOT
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---
## message-1526005334077079743
**2026-07-12T23:20:23.452+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526005334077079743`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1526005334077079743
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**Content**
```text
And that made it WORSE
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---
## message-1526005366951772260
**2026-07-12T23:20:31.29+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526005366951772260`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1526005366951772260
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**Content**
```text
7.5mA static to 12mA static
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---
## message-1526005410648293426
**2026-07-12T23:20:41.708+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526005410648293426`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1526005410648293426
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**Content**
```text
Corresponding roughly to the increase in the number of transistors
```
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---
## message-1526005423759691969
**2026-07-12T23:20:44.834+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526005423759691969`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1526005423759691969
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**Content**
```text
This feels like leakage
```
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## message-1526005675585704058
**2026-07-12T23:21:44.874+00:00 — namibj**
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I mean, I guess?
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## message-1526005802572316685
**2026-07-12T23:22:15.15+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526005802572316685`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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```text
And if that's the case, this sounds like runaway self-heating waiting to happen.
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## message-1526005970847924326
**2026-07-12T23:22:55.27+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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As I said, I’m going to have to just tape out and hope
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## message-1526006133381267619
**2026-07-12T23:23:34.021+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526006133381267619`
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```text
re-running with the other possibly-easier-to-digest print formats active for the power print line
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## message-1526006191904522323
**2026-07-12T23:23:47.974+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526006191904522323`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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(using the initial conditions file created)
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## message-1526029143496458401
**2026-07-13T00:55:00.06+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526029143496458401`
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```text
I did an extraction with resistors and it now idles at 1.9mA instead of 12mA
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## message-1526031370130821132
**2026-07-13T01:03:50.931+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526031370130821132`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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"with resistors"? as opposed to including capacitors, or what?
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## message-1526031634141286433
**2026-07-13T01:04:53.876+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526031634141286433`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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**Content**
```text
```
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## message-1526031658829090947
**2026-07-13T01:04:59.762+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526031658829090947`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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one of the "powers" should be fairly easy to wrangle into a comfy table
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## message-1526031902216290345
**2026-07-13T01:05:57.79+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526031902216290345`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
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Oh, I’ve been doing only transistors so far
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## message-1526032199504105653
**2026-07-13T01:07:08.669+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526032199504105653`
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oh, I've been doing full PEX
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## message-1526032283751026940
**2026-07-13T01:07:28.755+00:00 — namibj**
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**Content**
````text
```
***** Device Count Summary ...
C level 1 (Capacitor) 280984
D level 1,2 (Diode) 9694
M level 14 (BSIM4) 44848
R level 1 (Resistor) 267528
V level 1 (Independent Voltage Source) 22
---------------------------------------------
Total Devices 603076
***** Setting up matrix structure...
***** Number of Unknowns = 292543
***** Initializing...
Analyzed Singleton Problem:
---------------------------
Singletons Detected!
Num Singletons: 44
---------------------------
ConstructedSingleton Problem:
---------------------------
RatioOfDimensions: 0.99985
RatioOfNonzeros: 0.765899
---------------------------
ZOLTAN Load balancing method = 10 (HYPERGRAPH)
***** Solution Summary *****
Number Successful Steps Taken: 1
Number Failed Steps Attempted: 0
Number Jacobians Evaluated: 558
Number Linear Solves: 558
Number Failed Linear Solves: 0
Number Linear Solver Iterations: 69386
Number Residual Evaluations: 571
Number Nonlinear Convergence Failures: 0
Total Residual Load Time: 103.587 seconds
Total Jacobian Load Time: 104.901 seconds
Total Linear Solution Time: 2080.07 seconds
***** Total Simulation Solvers Run Time: 2370.69 seconds
***** Total Elapsed Run Time: 2547.76 seconds
*****
***** End of Xyce(TM) Simulation
*****
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## message-1526032426357493942
**2026-07-13T01:08:02.755+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526032426357493942`
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(turns out, loading from `.nodeset`'s doesn't make it faster; it takes almost twice as long instead... maybe only +50% time)
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## message-1526186454827405362
**2026-07-13T11:20:06.004+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526186454827405362`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
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According to the PDK docs, the 3.3V PFETs have twice the subthreshold current than 5V PFETs. And the NFETs have 10 times the subthreshold current!
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## message-1526187044886417470
**2026-07-13T11:22:26.685+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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So they seem to leak a lot more...
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## message-1526203632683454535
**2026-07-13T12:28:21.524+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I put together a spice bench that is just 256 buff_4 cells back-to-back and a pulse signal source that is low for 500ns, then goes high and stays there for 11us and **good lord what is happening in there?**
```
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## message-1526308937102655648
**2026-07-13T19:26:48.054+00:00 — namibj**
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Share; I wanna feed it to Xyce.
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## message-1526309525106200657
**2026-07-13T19:29:08.245+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526309525106200657`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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```text
(in a couple hours tho; I'm not home rn)
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## message-1526310368954290207
**2026-07-13T19:32:29.434+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526310368954290207`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1525667356469231717/1526310368954290207
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Have you tried/considered longer channels?
Are any of the `_dss` construction perhaps able to squeeze into at least some of your cells and perhaps be less-leaky?
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## message-1526310726187352157
**2026-07-13T19:33:54.605+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526310726187352157`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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- Type: `Default`
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....and/or could it be that this is better run with `VDD << 3.3V` assuming it's indeed due to DIBL?
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## message-1526319538856001537
**2026-07-13T20:08:55.709+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526319538856001537`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
- User name: namibj
- Type: `Reply`
- Edited: 2026-07-13T20:09:02.423+00:00
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@Tholin ......
I know I know, "AI bad", etc.; but I didn't spend substantial time promoting here, and these numbers look _seriously **sus**_ to me with `less` and `rg` as well....
Would be great if you could by chance confirm this clock "phasing" to be liable for severe power draw.
And if you'd perhaps be so kind as to make us a `_v5.xyce` by adjusting the inputs, I'd even fast-track that through Xyce over Mosh (remote shell).
https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6a5543dabbc88191a1d7f6b3f8919000
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## message-1526326707726844015
**2026-07-13T20:37:24.901+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526326707726844015`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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- Type: `Default`
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....
https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6a554c25a3288191b3b16d66ef7800db
Why do you have hundreds of diode-connected NMOS.....
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## message-1526327566728826890
**2026-07-13T20:40:49.703+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526327566728826890`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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Like I know they have some purposes but I don't think they have any reason to exist in that netlist....
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## message-1526328125057925242
**2026-07-13T20:43:02.819+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526328125057925242`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
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You mean the antenna diodes?
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## message-1526330199296442458
**2026-07-13T20:51:17.356+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526330199296442458`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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Those shouldn't involve `poly2 on comp`, though?
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## message-1526330597306273995
**2026-07-13T20:52:52.249+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526330597306273995`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
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Oh, its probably seeing the decoupling capacitors
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## message-1526338945405816974
**2026-07-13T21:26:02.591+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526338945405816974`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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_those account for on the order of 80% of the current draw_
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## message-1526339616028889279
**2026-07-13T21:28:42.48+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526339616028889279`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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I've got it to fix me up an evolved extractor script that is supposed to spit out coordinates mapped to the identifiers in SPICE; if the spice identifiers remained the same I likely have "coordinates of blame" in a couple minutes; if not it'll take about an hour from now to repeat all the analysis processing to find the offenders again.
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## message-1526340266959573112
**2026-07-13T21:31:17.674+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526340266959573112`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
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This is the decap cell. It uses the gate capacitance of two FETs as a decoupling capacitor.
```
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## message-1526343605944455218
**2026-07-13T21:44:33.75+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526343605944455218`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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Yeah that looks fine.
I'll know soon.
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## message-1526348715206377594
**2026-07-13T22:04:51.893+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526348715206377594`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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Check the net at `x 48500 y 3484` (database units) for mcpu32; there should be a w/l 1.0/0.28 nfet with one diffusion to VSS and the other diffusion somehow resistance-extraction tied to it's gate.
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## message-1526350593407455343
**2026-07-13T22:12:19.691+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526350593407455343`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
- Nickname: namibj
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Net tracing suggests the voltage is supplied by three pfet fingers of `w/l: 1.38/0.28` who's gates are driven by `din[15]`.
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## message-1526352436548079777
**2026-07-13T22:19:39.13+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1526352436548079777`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
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- Type: `Default`
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```text
```
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## message-1526356539882078299
**2026-07-13T22:35:57.441+00:00 — namibj**
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- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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?
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## message-1526356790663577821
**2026-07-13T22:36:57.232+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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That’s the area in question, roughly
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## message-1526356808774717491
**2026-07-13T22:37:01.55+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Its in that cell somewhere
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## message-1526356975338918108
**2026-07-13T22:37:41.262+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Its one of the input buffers
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## message-1526357022310666350
**2026-07-13T22:37:52.461+00:00 — namibj**
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Look what pfet gates `din[15]` connects to.
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## message-1526357122676162560
**2026-07-13T22:38:16.39+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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That would be these
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## message-1526357407859478730
**2026-07-13T22:39:24.383+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1526357407859478730`
- Author ID: `262706220073222144`
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The drains if them, just so simple "trace single net", and it should highlight you (not only, maybe, but certainly not missing) the diode-connected nfet as that very nfet gate is tied to those pfet drains.
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## message-1526357735183089737
**2026-07-13T22:40:42.423+00:00 — namibj**
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```text
```
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## message-1526357773326225418
**2026-07-13T22:40:51.517+00:00 — namibj**
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Be back in 5 minutes!
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## message-1526359378725179524
**2026-07-13T22:47:14.274+00:00 — namibj**
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Can you look at my annotated screenshot/excerpt of this image and explain?
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## message-1526360668826108125
**2026-07-13T22:52:21.858+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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OH NO!
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## message-1526361006748467312
**2026-07-13T22:53:42.425+00:00 — namibj**
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Well the current doesn't come from that VSS, it comes from the 3 pfet's.
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## message-1526361047550922933
**2026-07-13T22:53:52.153+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Same loop exists on both sides
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## message-1526361145265491988
**2026-07-13T22:54:15.45+00:00 — namibj**
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You have spice based timing extraction for your SCL set up, right?
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## message-1526361213401960528
**2026-07-13T22:54:31.695+00:00 — namibj**
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Yeah that's even worse 😄
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## message-1526361461126074468
**2026-07-13T22:55:30.757+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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Speedrunning a fix. Will go dark while I lock the fuck in.
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## message-1526361712817602650
**2026-07-13T22:56:30.765+00:00 — namibj**
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Could you amend the configured measurements to include supply current, and flag anything that smells like more than subthreshold leakage during any of the "static" moments during the stimuli?
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## message-1526361912751951874
**2026-07-13T22:57:18.433+00:00 — namibj**
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If you lack compute, hand me a self contained nix runner.
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## message-1526362245339287753
**2026-07-13T22:58:37.728+00:00 — namibj**
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You mentioned suspicious behavior for `NAND` and `NOT` .
This is highly concerning.
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## message-1526371337462091867
**2026-07-13T23:34:45.459+00:00 — namibj**
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- Edited: 2026-07-13T23:34:52.056+00:00
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I'm a little surprised/confused your nand4_2 wires the nmos intermediate nets around instead of doing what the 7-track foundry 5V nand4_2 did (a 4-finger nmos with no contacts etween fingers on the left, one on the right, and alternating between VDD contacts and output-m1-collector-snake-contacts on the pmos side.
https://gf180mcu-pdk.readthedocs.io/en/latest/digital/standard_cells/gf180mcu_fd_sc_mcu7t5v0/cells/nand4/gf180mcu_fd_sc_mcu7t5v0__nand4_2.html
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## message-1526373113913282670
**2026-07-13T23:41:48.998+00:00 — namibj**
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Don't forget `clkbuf_8`!
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## message-1526373191600181501
**2026-07-13T23:42:07.52+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I didn’t
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## message-1526549443229519893
**2026-07-14T11:22:29.183+00:00 — RebelMike (@rebelmike)**
- Message ID: `1526549443229519893`
- Author ID: `691780627338625077`
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- User name: rebelmike
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Well this is exciting. Good find! Was it just the (clk)buff_8? Have you checked that the simulated power consumption is normal on a large design with this fixed?
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## message-1526554250946023576
**2026-07-14T11:41:35.432+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I still get a few mA of static power consumption that oscillates up and down, but I even get that with the fab 5V SCL. Possible extraction or simulation issue?
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## message-1526555494255300758
**2026-07-14T11:46:31.86+00:00 — RebelMike (@rebelmike)**
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Cool, I’ll get my designs rebuilt when I get a chance!
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## message-1526555699075743764
**2026-07-14T11:47:20.693+00:00 — RebelMike (@rebelmike)**
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I probably should have tried a spice sim with my designs. As ever I’ve been a bit split between lots of different projects
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