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# Thread: Any suggestions how to start exploring

Category: **ℹ️ - Information**
Parent channel: **#general**
Thread ID: `1422555239202164838`

Messages: **6**

## message-1422556562421059634

**2025-09-30T12:11:54.304+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1422556562421059634`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `21`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1422555239202164838/1422556562421059634
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%E2%84%B9%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Information/general/any-suggestions-how-to-start-exploring/2025-09/2025-09.json
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- https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1361349523724570941/1422555239202164838
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## message-1422556565214335099

**2025-09-30T12:11:54.97+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1422556565214335099`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1422555239202164838/1422556565214335099
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**Content**

```text
For the analog layout, do you want to use magic or KLayout?

gf180mcu has PCells for both. However, the KLayout PCells require a more complex setup due to the use of GDSFactory.
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## message-1422558018993786971

**2025-09-30T12:17:41.578+00:00 — Vipul (@vipul.sh)**

- Message ID: `1422558018993786971`
- Author ID: `1214459146217201704`
- Nickname: Vipul
- User name: vipul.sh
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1422555239202164838/1422558018993786971
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```text
I will prefer magic as have worked on it earlier for few designs but open for klayout also.
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## message-1422558140997701652

**2025-09-30T12:18:10.666+00:00 — Vipul (@vipul.sh)**

- Message ID: `1422558140997701652`
- Author ID: `1214459146217201704`
- Nickname: Vipul
- User name: vipul.sh
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1422555239202164838/1422558140997701652
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%E2%84%B9%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Information/general/any-suggestions-how-to-start-exploring/2025-09/2025-09.json
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```text
What about schematic, simulation, lvs steps? Is it similar to as for sky130?
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## message-1422558205158101084

**2025-09-30T12:18:25.963+00:00 — Vipul (@vipul.sh)**

- Message ID: `1422558205158101084`
- Author ID: `1214459146217201704`
- Nickname: Vipul
- User name: vipul.sh
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1422555239202164838/1422558205158101084
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```text
Using xschem, ngspice , netgen
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## message-1422561679539179521

**2025-09-30T12:32:14.32+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1422561679539179521`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1422555239202164838/1422561679539179521
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%E2%84%B9%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Information/general/any-suggestions-how-to-start-exploring/2025-09/2025-09.json
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**Content**

```text
Yes, it's pretty much the same. I would recommend installing the latest PDK via ciel (https://github.com/fossi-foundation/ciel) and taking a look at the tool-specific setup in gf180mcuD/libs.tech/*.

You can then ask any specific questions here.
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