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# Thread: "M3.2b - Space to wide Metal3 (length &

Category: **📐 - Designing**
Parent channel: **#📝-project-template**
Thread ID: `1441861490931011734`

Messages: **41**

## message-1442131010706870336

**2025-11-23T12:33:46.451+00:00 — urish**

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- User name: urish
- Type: `21`
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- https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1423348662318272592/1441861490931011734
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## message-1442131015081529435

**2025-11-23T12:33:47.494+00:00 — urish**

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````text
Looking at the rule:

```
  # Rule M3.2b: Space to wide Metal3 (length & width > 10um) is 0.3µm
  logger.info('Executing rule M3.2b')
  wide_m3 = metal3.not_interacting(metal3.edges.with_length(nil, 10.um))
  m32b_l1 = metal3.separation(wide_m3, 0.3.um, euclidian)
  m32b_l1.output('M3.2b', 'M3.2b : Space to wide Metal3 (length & width > 10um) : 0.3µm')
  m32b_l1.forget
  wide_m3.forget
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## message-1442132074147610655

**2025-11-23T12:37:59.995+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1442132074147610655`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1442132074147610655
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```text
I understand it as follows:

`wide_m3` is all the m3 shapes that do not have at least one dimension that is in the range [0, 10), which seems to match what the written rule says
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## message-1442132743877033995

**2025-11-23T12:40:39.671+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

- Message ID: `1442132743877033995`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
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- User name: 246tnt
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You need to use common sense when interpreting rules. The dimensions are if the shape is filled. a long thin met3 trace going all around and spanning a distance of more than 10u in both X and Y direction is not "wide metal".
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## message-1442133241120297075

**2025-11-23T12:42:38.223+00:00 — urish**

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Ok, that explains the issue
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## message-1442134249460334603

**2025-11-23T12:46:38.63+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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`wide_m3 = metal3.sized(-5.um).sized(5.um) & metal3` might work better.
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## message-1442134488355311761

**2025-11-23T12:47:35.587+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1442134488355311761`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
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```text
Maybe even just metal3.sized(-5.um) and then check if there are any shapes with area > 0 ?
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## message-1442134621394440233

**2025-11-23T12:48:07.306+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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Why ?  wide metal3 is not an error in itself.
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## message-1442134658770010203

**2025-11-23T12:48:16.217+00:00 — urish**

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ah, right 🙂
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## message-1442141078756003961

**2025-11-23T13:13:46.861+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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Here's the docs for reference: https://gf180mcu-pdk.readthedocs.io/en/latest/physical_verification/design_manual/drm_07_14.html
Both the length and width of the metal need to be > 10um.
Could you open a quick issue in the gf180mcu PDK fork?
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## message-1442159563037085777

**2025-11-23T14:27:13.857+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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Created issue along with reproducer and also show casing that the proposed fix does indeed seems to behave better ( doesn't flag the non-existent error, but does correctly flag a true error ).
https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu/issues/4
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## message-1442159944576008252

**2025-11-23T14:28:44.823+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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@Leo Moser (mole99) In general should we open issues against your fork or against fossi repo ?
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## message-1442166118058954974

**2025-11-23T14:53:16.696+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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## message-1442166168134881363

**2025-11-23T14:53:28.635+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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@urish if you want to locally patch the PDK
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## message-1442169058559787108

**2025-11-23T15:04:57.766+00:00 — urish**

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Thx! Hopefully the upstream PDK will be fixed promptly
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## message-1442196144200486922

**2025-11-23T16:52:35.486+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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In this case I asked to open it against the fork, so that I wouldn't forget about it 😅
But in general we want to fix all of these issues upstream. I hope to port the majority of the changes after the tapeout to the FOSSi repos.
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## message-1442196306893344830

**2025-11-23T16:53:14.275+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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I hope tomorrow is soon enough!
I'd like to check if a stepped `sized` makes a difference here, since large `sized` can be a performance bottleneck.
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## message-1442196717750587512

**2025-11-23T16:54:52.231+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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With `upstream` do you mean the PDK fork, or the FOSSi one?
If this is an issue in Tiny Tapeout user designs, then I'll upstream the patch sooner than after the tapeout.
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## message-1442196826873925694

**2025-11-23T16:55:18.248+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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FWIW the new rule executed way faster than the old one 😅
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## message-1442196881701605643

**2025-11-23T16:55:31.32+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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No, it's only an issue for the top level TT integration.
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## message-1442196959703335014

**2025-11-23T16:55:49.917+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

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We're having a weird LVS failure in the user designs though 😅
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## message-1442197338348191794

**2025-11-23T16:57:20.193+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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Yes, I would think so 😁  But it might be even faster with doing the sizing in smaller steps.
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## message-1442197642200481903

**2025-11-23T16:58:32.637+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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Yes, I saw Mike's post, but I haven't had a chance to take a closer look at it yet.
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## message-1443163356872577055

**2025-11-26T08:55:56.957+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**

- Message ID: `1443163356872577055`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443163356872577055
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/project-template/m32b-space-to-wide-metal3-length/2025-11/2025-11.json
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```text
@Leo Moser (mole99) Yeah sorry, forgot to start the full chip DRC last night ... ( takes like 4.5 ~ 5hours 😅 )
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## message-1443166454013755413

**2025-11-26T09:08:15.373+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1443166454013755413`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443166454013755413
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/project-template/m32b-space-to-wide-metal3-length/2025-11/2025-11.json
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```text
I'll run the mpw precheck action now
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## message-1443166486624600215

**2025-11-26T09:08:23.148+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1443166486624600215`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
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- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/project-template/m32b-space-to-wide-metal3-length/2025-11/2025-11.json
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```text
Np. It works for your reproducible and for the default template, so I assume it works for the TT chip as well :)
If not just let me know ✌️
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## message-1443166585555521669

**2025-11-26T09:08:46.735+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1443166585555521669`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443166585555521669
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https://github.com/TinyTapeout/tinytapeout-gf-0p2/actions/runs/19698325989
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## message-1443166653167829114

**2025-11-26T09:09:02.855+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1443166653167829114`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
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The latest PDK updates are not yet in the precheck. Working on that now.
```

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## message-1443172299552587787

**2025-11-26T09:31:29.058+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443172299552587787
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/project-template/m32b-space-to-wide-metal3-length/2025-11/2025-11.json
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@urish New version is tagged: https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu-precheck/releases/tag/1.0.1
```

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## message-1443172451898101860

**2025-11-26T09:32:05.38+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1443172451898101860`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443172451898101860
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/project-template/m32b-space-to-wide-metal3-length/2025-11/2025-11.json
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will rerun the action
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## message-1443172529551179867

**2025-11-26T09:32:23.894+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1443172529551179867`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
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second time: https://github.com/TinyTapeout/tinytapeout-gf-0p2/actions/runs/19698997807
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## message-1443229112469557393

**2025-11-26T13:17:14.313+00:00 — urish**

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- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
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- Type: `Default`
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passed!
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## message-1443229118912008202

**2025-11-26T13:17:15.849+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1443229118912008202`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443229118912008202
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thanks Leo
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## message-1443233618188042344

**2025-11-26T13:35:08.56+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
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Great 🥳  Zero area polygons check coming next.
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## message-1443234043561906327

**2025-11-26T13:36:49.977+00:00 — urish**

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and if you find any way of speeding this thing up
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## message-1443234060670603296

**2025-11-26T13:36:54.056+00:00 — urish**

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- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
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that'd be great
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## message-1443234178727674017

**2025-11-26T13:37:22.203+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1443234178727674017`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443234178727674017
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(for comparison, the sky130 precheck takes around 1 hour on this size of chip, and ihp precheck is also around that ballpark)
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## message-1443272482349125752

**2025-11-26T16:09:34.498+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1443272482349125752`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443272482349125752
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Unfortunately, it's not as easy as that :)
I hope to find the time to identify the biggest bottlenecks and see if they can be fixed. But that won't happen before the tapeout, at least.

The IHP KLayout DRC is only that fast because they split the rule deck and run N instances in parallel. You could do the same here (and I'll look into it), but the gf180mcu KLayout DRC implementation is much more memory hungry, so with e.g. 64 GB, I can't run many threads in parallel at all.
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## message-1443272497599348856

**2025-11-26T16:09:38.134+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1443272497599348856`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
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- User name: mole99
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Here's a new precheck tag: https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu-precheck/releases/tag/1.2.0
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## message-1443298597583196333

**2025-11-26T17:53:20.855+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1443298597583196333`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
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Yes, we've seen the memory get to about 10-12 GB
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## message-1443298630336381111

**2025-11-26T17:53:28.664+00:00 — urish**

- Message ID: `1443298630336381111`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441861490931011734/1443298630336381111
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GH actions have a limit of 16 GB RAM IIRC
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