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# Thread: How we can do the same here, excluding

Category: **📐 - Designing**
Parent channel: **#📝-project-template**
Thread ID: `1441095243041865820`

Messages: **15**

## message-1441095961463230474

**2025-11-20T16:00:51.481+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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- https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1423348662318272592/1441095243041865820
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## message-1441095965829496933

**2025-11-20T16:00:52.522+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1441095965829496933`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441095243041865820/1441095965829496933
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**Content**

```text
You need to set [`SYNTH_EXCLUDED_CELL_FILE`](https://librelane.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/common_pdk_vars.html) to point to your exclude file.
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## message-1441096207098318960

**2025-11-20T16:01:50.045+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1441096207098318960`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441095243041865820/1441096207098318960
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```text
You can find the current one in `gf180mcu/gf180mcuD/libs.tech/librelane/gf180mcu_fd_sc_mcu7t5v0/synth_exclude.cells`
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## message-1441096516973363392

**2025-11-20T16:03:03.925+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**

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- Author ID: `840182560252624916`
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it is possible to overlay it?
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## message-1441096625425612810

**2025-11-20T16:03:29.782+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**

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I don't want to touch the gf180mcu repo
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## message-1441096694115864706

**2025-11-20T16:03:46.159+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

- Message ID: `1441096694115864706`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
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No, unfortunately not. Make a copy of the file in your repository and add the line.
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## message-1441097669945589791

**2025-11-20T16:07:38.815+00:00 — urish**

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Yes, that's what I did
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**2025-11-20T16:07:54.778+00:00 — urish**

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But it'd be really nice to understand the actual issue
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## message-1441097789898752164

**2025-11-20T16:08:07.414+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**

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But if they are changes in gf180mcu you will not recognize 🙂
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## message-1441098018689650728

**2025-11-20T16:09:01.962+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**

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Today you know, but not tomorrow 🙂
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## message-1441099645307850903

**2025-11-20T16:15:29.778+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**

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Yes, the proper solution is to fix the simulation model of the cell (if that is the issue).
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## message-1441100897634750575

**2025-11-20T16:20:28.356+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**

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$ cat 06-yosys-synthesis/chip_top.nl.v  | grep gf180mcu_fd_sc_mcu7t5v0__oai21_1 | wc -l
0
lolo
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## message-1441109594746388492

**2025-11-20T16:55:01.909+00:00 — urish**

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There's a good chance the simulation model is not the issue, since there are many `gf180mcu_fd_sc_mcu7t5v0__oai21_2` instances in the design that does pass the GL tests
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## message-1441194124521767074

**2025-11-20T22:30:55.378+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**

- Message ID: `1441194124521767074`
- Author ID: `840182560252624916`
- Nickname: asic destroyer
- User name: logic_destroyer
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1441095243041865820/1441194124521767074
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/project-template/how-we-can-do-the-same-here-excluding/2025-11/2025-11.json
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what is the issue then?
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## message-1441194555914457129

**2025-11-20T22:32:38.23+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**

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- Author ID: `840182560252624916`
- Nickname: asic destroyer
- User name: logic_destroyer
- Type: `Default`
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yosys?
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