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# #🏗️-die-sorter
Category: **📐 - Designing**
Channel ID: `1419841819138854993`
Messages: **464**
## message-1419842793110507651
**2025-09-23T00:28:21.281+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1419842793110507651`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1419842793110507651
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-09/2025-09.json
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%93%90%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-09/2025-09.json
**Content**
```text
@Andrew Wingate - This look okay?
```
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## message-1419868582321590363
**2025-09-23T02:10:49.908+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1419868582321590363`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-09-23T02:15:51.883+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1419868582321590363
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-09/2025-09.json
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%93%90%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-09/2025-09.json
**Content**
```text
Hey everyone, like Tim mentioned, we’re building a die-sorting robot!
To give you a sense of scale, here’s what one run looks like:
- 50 full wafers
- 28 reticle shots (each a “group photo” of all projects) per wafer
- 40 unique projects per reticle shot
- Add it up and you get **56,000 project dies**
- Each die is about the size of a few grains of rice: 3.88 mm × 5.08 mm
- Laid out flat, that’s over 8 ft² (0.8 m²) of silicon — basically a coffee table made of chips
In electronics manufacturing, tape-and-reel is the standard way to package components, so that’s our target. We looked at wafer packs (think plastic ice cube trays for chips) and gel packs, but reels make the most sense at this scale.
The wafers will arrive pre-sliced and mounted on tape frames. With so many dies to handle, we’re going straight from wafer to reel — no detours.
I can’t wait to see all the designs people come up with, and I’ll keep posting updates as this project rolls forward (pun intended).
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## message-1419869315603370105
**2025-09-23T02:13:44.736+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1419869315603370105`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1419869315603370105
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-09/2025-09.json
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**Content**
```text
@Andrew Wingate - 3.88 mm x 5.08mm is a lot bigger than a fingernail clipping unless your not clipping your fingernails a normal amount 😛
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## message-1419869737147568158
**2025-09-23T02:15:25.24+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1419869737147568158`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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Yeah.. it's kinda close in sq units. it's a thumbnail at 1mm
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## message-1419871206269784176
**2025-09-23T02:21:15.506+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1419871206269784176`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1419871206269784176
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**Content**
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These are very early models, just exploring how all the pieces might fit together into a compact machine; after all, this whole setup has to ship to Singapore!
The concept is straightforward: the wafer sits right in the center, surrounded by 40 tape-and-reel stations (20 on each side). Each station will load a specific die into its own reel and then seal it up with protective film, ready for shipping :)
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## message-1420179762336501854
**2025-09-23T22:47:21.005+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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**2025-09-23T22:47:49.517+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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## message-1420197771364794389
**2025-09-23T23:58:54.692+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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## message-1420200274814832773
**2025-09-24T00:08:51.561+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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**2025-09-24T02:08:03.281+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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## message-1420230781250568222
**2025-09-24T02:10:04.862+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Andrew Wingate - Did you also see https://foss-eda-tools.googlesource.com/third_party/shuttle/gf180mcu/mpw-000/foundry/+/refs/heads/main/manifest-gfmpw-0.csv ?
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**2025-09-24T02:11:19.717+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420231095215067169`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420231095215067169
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@Andrew Wingate - @Leo Moser (mole99) is working on the tool which stitches the retcile together @ https://github.com/wafer-space/reticle-stitcher
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## message-1420233600166793288
**2025-09-24T02:21:16.944+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420233600166793288`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420233600166793288
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**Content**
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Sadly it doesn't seem like the GF180MCU/MPW-001 which are associated with the die I gave you was never published.
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## message-1420236420664131605
**2025-09-24T02:32:29.403+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420236420664131605`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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**Content**
```text
@Andrew Wingate - Reading the IDs - https://siliconpr0n.org/archive/doku.php?id=vendor:efabless#reading_efabless_id_numbers
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## message-1420273256639889408
**2025-09-24T04:58:51.784+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420273256639889408`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420273256639889408
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**Content**
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell
https://github.com/evezor/waferspace_die_sorter/wiki/Overall-Strategies
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---
## message-1420274059673079830
**2025-09-24T05:02:03.242+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420274059673079830`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420274059673079830
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**Content**
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@Andrew Wingate - On the holding of the wafer frame, I'm unclear if you need to do something to the wafer frame to allow easy removal of the die.
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## message-1420697797799186443
**2025-09-25T09:05:50.284+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420697797799186443`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-09-25T09:06:53.129+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420697797799186443
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-09/2025-09.json
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**Content**
```text
Thx for some of the info Tim, -*edit for those watching, we're looking to put dies into smt tape*
EIA STANDARD - 8 mm Through 200 mm Embossed Carrier Taping and 8 mm & 12 mm Punched Carrier Taping of Surface Mount Components for Automatic Handling
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## message-1420697849645109339
**2025-09-25T09:06:02.645+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420697849645109339`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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**Content**
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The process, packaging, and materials cannot impact the components. This includes their markings and their electrical and mechanical characteristics. Additional guidelines exist for further reference, including:
EIA-383—Preparation for the Delivery of Electrical and Electronic Components
EIA-541—Packaging Material Standards for ESD Sensitive Items
EIA-583—Packaging Material Standards for Moisture Sensitive Items
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## message-1420698207452790904
**2025-09-25T09:07:27.953+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420698207452790904`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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I came across an embossing machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-XQ0Mk-yMQ
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## message-1420698501679153255
**2025-09-25T09:08:38.102+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420698501679153255`
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- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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## message-1420699435150741626
**2025-09-25T09:12:20.659+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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**Content**
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Hey Tim, I was just looking around a bit for some info on smt tape.
Found a generic supplier and it seems like they have a min order of 5km
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Plastic-Packaging-Materials-for-Electronic-Components_1600512330442.html?spm=a2700.prosearch.normal_offer.d_title.186d67afspjYlH&priceId=1b90f94702bb4f568b4c91a9b0425c83
They also have tape, which seems to be around a dollar at qty 100. They never give the real prices until you start talking with them.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/13-3-MM-Width-Smt-Cover_1600521271655.html?spm=a2700.details.you_may_like.2.4a234424fGJnNX
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## message-1420701246926491708
**2025-09-25T09:19:32.62+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell I've been playing with a few cameras and microscopes that I have. That 2mp camera I was talking about cannot read these IDs. Also the crappy usb microscope I have also does nothing to help.
I also have a 48MP microscope and it also cannot read these id's. What I have shown here is about the best zoom I'm able to get out of it. It's possible with some better light we could get a better look, but at the end of the day these are very very small features.
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## message-1420701878127296555
**2025-09-25T09:22:03.11+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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I would have tought you'd use the position on the wafer to sort, not trying to read those tiny IDs.
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## message-1420702410443194379
**2025-09-25T09:24:10.024+00:00 — urish**
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I guess you could also visuallly compare the pattern with a reference, if you want to go optical
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## message-1420702721740247124
**2025-09-25T09:25:24.243+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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I came up with this and wanted your opinion of if this is a viable option.
The idea is to create larger characters that can fit in every corner. The process and run could somehow be encoded if desired, but all that info is in the id anyways.
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## message-1420703164302233620
**2025-09-25T09:27:09.758+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Tim has expressed interest in verification steps along the way.
Additionally, there seems to be little trust that all wafers will be the exact same (even if this is just how things are mounted on the wafer frame after dicing.
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## message-1420703619635744849
**2025-09-25T09:28:58.318+00:00 — urish**
- Message ID: `1420703619635744849`
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How many projects are you going to have on a wafer?
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## message-1420703649134284800
**2025-09-25T09:29:05.351+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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That's also a good idea, but not sure how easy it would be to establish some kind of baseline
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## message-1420703761546088448
**2025-09-25T09:29:32.152+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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40 projects per reticle shot
28 full reticle shots per wafer
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## message-1420703882761207899
**2025-09-25T09:30:01.052+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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There will be some partials at the edges and sides that will be discarded afaik
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## message-1420704067755442248
**2025-09-25T09:30:45.158+00:00 — urish**
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So we need less than 6 bits of data. I don't think letters are the best way to attack this (but they may just be good enough)
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## message-1420704386186739823
**2025-09-25T09:32:01.078+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Originally I had thought just naughts and crosses and 'None' could do it, then thought why stop there
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## message-1420704581020815372
**2025-09-25T09:32:47.53+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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alphabet alone is 26^4 = 456,976
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## message-1420704623387344958
**2025-09-25T09:32:57.631+00:00 — urish**
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The other question is whether you also want to encode the run id somehow
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## message-1420704669197406321
**2025-09-25T09:33:08.553+00:00 — urish**
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in case one wanted to identify which wafer the die belongs to
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## message-1420704681079869520
**2025-09-25T09:33:11.386+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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There is also the process and the run, yes
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## message-1420704728505126944
**2025-09-25T09:33:22.693+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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There is always still the ID
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## message-1420704738734768199
**2025-09-25T09:33:25.132+00:00 — urish**
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but is that for the #🏗️-die-sorter
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## message-1420704767881248768
**2025-09-25T09:33:32.081+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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I am not suggesting we remove that
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## message-1420704836659183728
**2025-09-25T09:33:48.479+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Correct, basically just the die sorter
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## message-1420705322804187279
**2025-09-25T09:35:44.385+00:00 — urish**
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```text
so I'd just keep it as simple as possible.
Maybe like 2x2 matrices on each edge, that gives you a total of 16 bits, so you could actually encode the data twice + parity? You can also use some of the bits for detecting the orientation
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## message-1420705666712076369
**2025-09-25T09:37:06.379+00:00 — urish**
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Looking at the space, triangle shape (3-bits) will probably fit better
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## message-1420705667773370450
**2025-09-25T09:37:06.632+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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That's also a great idea.
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## message-1420705673011789920
**2025-09-25T09:37:07.881+00:00 — urish**
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```text
something like:
```
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## message-1420705967343013908
**2025-09-25T09:38:18.055+00:00 — urish**
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```text
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## message-1420706289788522556
**2025-09-25T09:39:34.932+00:00 — urish**
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then you can just cut these shapes out and start playing tetris with the pieces
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## message-1420706719050366976
**2025-09-25T09:41:17.276+00:00 — urish**
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looking at the samples you send, the padring has one darker edge - is that always the case? If yes, then you can use that for orientation
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## message-1420706794652569731
**2025-09-25T09:41:35.301+00:00 — urish**
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(in any case orientation needs to be sorted out for packaging)
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## message-1420706862310887465
**2025-09-25T09:41:51.432+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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No, I believe that is just an artifact of my bad lighting
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## message-1420708371430117376
**2025-09-25T09:47:51.234+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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- User name: anfroholic
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Above, Tim had shared an example output of the reticle stitcher https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420231095215067169
So once a couple of dies are found, creating the map for picking should be prett straightforward after that
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## message-1420817507916451991
**2025-09-25T17:01:31.4+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420817507916451991`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420817507916451991
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@Leo Moser (mole99) - Thoughts on IDs?
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## message-1420817581639729364
**2025-09-25T17:01:48.977+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420817581639729364`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420817581639729364
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@Andrew Wingate - Do you have pictures of your microscope / camera set up?
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## message-1420818204959313930
**2025-09-25T17:04:17.588+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1420818204959313930`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420818204959313930
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```text
BTW, are raw dies on reel something common ? (i.e. would packaging house usually be equipped to handle that)
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## message-1420818553656971505
**2025-09-25T17:05:40.724+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1420818553656971505`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-09-25T17:05:54.247+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420818553656971505
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Side note: I tried reading the die-ID on my MPW1 chip with my microscope and no way ... I can barely make-out the OSHW logo and that's if I light it at just the right angle ...
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## message-1420824609187565689
**2025-09-25T17:29:44.475+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420824609187565689`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420824609187565689
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Guess I got too use to having access to @digshadow's higher end equipement 🙂
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## message-1420824747620438078
**2025-09-25T17:30:17.48+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420824747620438078`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420824747620438078
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@Andrew Wingate / @Leo Moser (mole99) - We probably want a "pin 1" type marker as well for orientation.
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## message-1420848428375609416
**2025-09-25T19:04:23.412+00:00 — digshadow**
- Message ID: `1420848428375609416`
- Author ID: `643551115920670720`
- Nickname: digshadow
- User name: digshadow
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420848428375609416
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell how quickly do you need something? maybe sync up this weekend?
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## message-1420855935676579991
**2025-09-25T19:34:13.292+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420855935676579991`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420855935676579991
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@digshadow - Well, having an ID which is readable by people beyond your friends seems like something we should do 🙂
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## message-1420856046561398927
**2025-09-25T19:34:39.729+00:00 — digshadow**
- Message ID: `1420856046561398927`
- Author ID: `643551115920670720`
- Nickname: digshadow
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420856046561398927
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Hmmm? Need more context
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## message-1420856157630632098
**2025-09-25T19:35:06.21+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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Dunno - but reels are the preferred format for PCBA houses normally.
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## message-1420856456072269905
**2025-09-25T19:36:17.364+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1420856456072269905`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420856456072269905
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Yeah, because of pick and place machines, but if the machine dealing with dies aren't made for those, that won't help 😅
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## message-1420856751896400016
**2025-09-25T19:37:27.894+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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At the moment the IDs which where used on the Google shuttles don't seem to be easily readable by the equipment that @tnt or @Andrew Wingate have. Thus it might be good for us to go with an ID which is bigger and allows more people to read them easily without having to get a good microscope from you 🙂
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## message-1420857185956663518
**2025-09-25T19:39:11.382+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@tnt - Yeah, these are the type of questions we are trying to sort out now, I'd like to do at least some type of short PCBA with wire bonding run (probably using GFMPW-0 or GFMPW-1 ICs) ASAP.
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## message-1420953723693170780
**2025-09-26T02:02:47.772+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420953723693170780`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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Pardon the mess.
This is the microscope I used to send the picture above. The crappy little black usb microscope on it's side also did not seem to work very well. Some of it could be bad lighting, user error, or they really are just too small to be read by crappy equipment.
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## message-1420953920221614231
**2025-09-26T02:03:34.628+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420953920221614231`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Yes, a pin1 is probably highly useful
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## message-1420954192733929634
**2025-09-26T02:04:39.6+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420954192733929634`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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I was trying to come up with something that would still be at least partially useful if the dies were cut up further, but I think now that's another problem.
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## message-1420957204512641034
**2025-09-26T02:16:37.664+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420957204512641034`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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```text
Expanding on @urish idea of some bitwise information encoded into the corners we could also go maybe as far as something like this
if the corners of the triangles are always black--or whatever color--that could be used to identify location/skew/etc. and if triangle has a side length of 5 that leaves 12bits of info per corner--this obviously does not count for the pin1 corner though.
The deeper we dive into this, the more it seems like it may be useful to keep these human readable.
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## message-1420959143665336342
**2025-09-26T02:24:19.994+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420959143665336342`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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@Andrew Wingate - I think @Leo Moser (mole99) thoughts are important, as he is the one who will have to implement it 🙂
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## message-1420959649150009454
**2025-09-26T02:26:20.511+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420959649150009454`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Oh, of course!
I was just throwing anything at the wall to see if it sticks.
You are correct, I've been thinking more application than implementation.
@Leo Moser (mole99) I would love some advice on what's possible and easiest to implement.
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## message-1420960320884707348
**2025-09-26T02:29:00.665+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420960320884707348`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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@Leo Moser (mole99) I see on this chip I have there are *?different layers?* that have different colors. Is it possible to do something like what's pictured here for the best contrast?
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## message-1420961146793365565
**2025-09-26T02:32:17.577+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1420961146793365565`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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It seems there are a couple dies on this wafer that have done something similar
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## message-1420987192679075872
**2025-09-26T04:15:47.4+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1420987192679075872`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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Maybe people in the SiliconPrawn discord might have thoughts - they have spent lots of time looking at various markings / doodles on chips.
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## message-1420992567193112628
**2025-09-26T04:37:08.784+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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## message-1421037598465331222
**2025-09-26T07:36:05.076+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
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IME contrast / color is extremely dependent on how you light the samples.
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## message-1421044969031860327
**2025-09-26T08:05:22.356+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1421044969031860327`
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**Content**
```text
I'm on my way back from Austrochip, so I can reply to questions again :)
I started [gf180mcu-precheck](https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu-precheck) a few days ago. It is a custom LibreLane flow to read the user GDS, perform various checks (e.g. top-level, density, etc.), insert the ID, and whatever else we need. At the end, you receive the final GDS used for fabrication.
I use the KLayout API to generate the shapes for the ID. Currently, I'm using the built-in TEXT PCell to generate the digits for the ID, but we can use anything else: a QR code, a pattern of dots etc.
One thing to consider: we should not specify a fixed position for the ID. Instead, we provide an abstract cell for the ID that the user can place anywhere on their die, which is later replaced with the generated ID. This allows to do custom padframes (or no padframes at all). I can extract the position of the ID cell during the precheck. With the location of the die on the reticle and the offset of the ID, you can position the camera above the ID.
As for the layers, I would place the ID at Metal5 (topmost layer) with a no-fill shape around it. I assume this will give enough contrast. There are ways to achieve different colors with diffraction patterns, however, I'm no expert on that :)
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## message-1421047393549287457
**2025-09-26T08:15:00.406+00:00 — urish**
- Message ID: `1421047393549287457`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
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We did some experimentation with diffraction patterns on ttihp0p3, we may have some results when we get back the chips (Dec?)
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## message-1422433838281261118
**2025-09-30T04:04:14.589+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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@Leo Moser (mole99) / @Andrew Wingate - I responded at https://github.com/wafer-space/reticle-stitcher/issues/1#issuecomment-3346714007
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## message-1422434187239096452
**2025-09-30T04:05:37.787+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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I would love people like @tnt to be able to identify they got the right part and the pin zero / orientation 🙂
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**2025-09-30T04:36:22.885+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell and @Leo Moser (mole99)
For reference, the first pic was taken with my phone. Pretty new samsung.
Second is taken with one of those super cheap usb microscopes
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## message-1422487819716395068
**2025-09-30T07:38:44.766+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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The cheap microscope looks quite good already! Did you take the picture with your phone in macro mode?
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## message-1423009854016192593
**2025-10-01T18:13:07.442+00:00 — carlfk**
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## message-1423012418581299221
**2025-10-01T18:23:18.882+00:00 — carlfk**
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## message-1423022395522023655
**2025-10-01T19:02:57.57+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Leo Moser (mole99) / @Andrew Wingate - Just had a random idea which may or may not be very good.
It would be *nice* if we could embed two pieces of information (probably optionally?) --
(a) The checksum of the source file and
(b) a URL / Link to the GDS (maybe stored on archive.org or something?)
Basically if someone is looking at the die being able to get a link to the source code for the project would be pretty rad.......
Would probably need to be a QRCode type thing?
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## message-1423023043873341593
**2025-10-01T19:05:32.149+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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There are also a number of lesser node QRCode versions, like the Micro QRCode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code#Micro_QR_code) and the Rectangular Micro QR Code (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectangular_Micro_QR_Code).
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## message-1423023286237003969
**2025-10-01T19:06:29.933+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1423023286237003969`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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Apparently https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Matrix is an alternative to QRCodes which store a lot of data in a small area too.
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## message-1423023414968455279
**2025-10-01T19:07:00.625+00:00 — urish**
- Message ID: `1423023414968455279`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
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I was just about to mention data matrix
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## message-1423023638130589697
**2025-10-01T19:07:53.831+00:00 — urish**
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Another way to go about this is to create some kind of open source chip registry
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## message-1423023668069400758
**2025-10-01T19:08:00.969+00:00 — urish**
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and give each chip a unique number
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## message-1423023698931355708
**2025-10-01T19:08:08.327+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1423023698931355708`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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- User name: mithro_
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> The most popular application for Data Matrix is marking small items, due to the code's ability to encode fifty characters in a symbol that is readable at 2 or 3 mm2 (0.003 or 0.005 sq in) and the fact that the code can be read with only a 20% contrast ratio.[1] A Data Matrix is scalable; commercial applications exist with images as small as 300 micrometres (0.012 in) (laser etched on a 600-micrometre (0.024 in) silicon device)
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## message-1423023717419581541
**2025-10-01T19:08:12.735+00:00 — urish**
- Message ID: `1423023717419581541`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
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like you have ISBN for books
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## message-1423023877260312617
**2025-10-01T19:08:50.844+00:00 — urish**
- Message ID: `1423023877260312617`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
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- Type: `Default`
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ISOCI (International Standard Open Chip Id)
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## message-1423023905924317345
**2025-10-01T19:08:57.678+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1423023905924317345`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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@urish - I was thinking about the same thing. Maybe something we could look at with the https://oshwa.org/ ?
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## message-1423023990246735953
**2025-10-01T19:09:17.782+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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They have https://certification.oshwa.org/#
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## message-1423149045383172196
**2025-10-02T03:26:13.25+00:00 — h_thoreson (@h_thoreson_71412)**
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uuid
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## message-1423170334122836050
**2025-10-02T04:50:48.881+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1423170582698262598
**2025-10-02T04:51:48.146+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell I got the webhook going. We can add others later if you'd like, or create a more general channel that just catches them all. \
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## message-1423170913108758648
**2025-10-02T04:53:06.922+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Example of what came out of that script. @Tim 'mithro' Ansell asked how I came up with yield numbers, so am showing work
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## message-1423179150902034442
**2025-10-02T05:25:50.965+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1423188788854653000
**2025-10-02T06:04:08.832+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell @Leo Moser (mole99) @urish
These are all great!
I have a few OSHWA certified things (I have been lazy about posting more) https://certification.oshwa.org/us002531.html
If it's a machine readable code it would be nice if it were a URL
This URL is over 40 chars which would put it in the 22-24x range. This density also just starts to look like a dot at macro scales and would fill the pin1 specification
Data matrix are more meant for smaller things so I believe this should be the default choice. They are also read by my phone natively so that is a bonus.
I think this puts us with wanting some kind of ISBN like @urish was saying, but this could just as easily be a serial number.
Also having this point to a website also allows a place to put all the fabrication data, ie. process, run#, date and everything else.
This has the added benefit I think of also having a way to point to source files--*or not depending if you want to**
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## message-1423190516757168220
**2025-10-02T06:11:00.796+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1423190516757168220`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
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Are dies good right up to the edge ? Or is there a min distance from the wafer edge for them to be viable ?
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## message-1423190907586609152
**2025-10-02T06:12:33.977+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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This is something I actually have no knowledge in. It should be pretty easy to change when we do know. The entire thing was an artifact of creating pick maps and the sort
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## message-1423191077791207565
**2025-10-02T06:13:14.557+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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also it looks pretty :)
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## message-1423192248639553577
**2025-10-02T06:17:53.709+00:00 — Valgamaa (@valgamaa)**
- Message ID: `1423192248639553577`
- Author ID: `732905260091310090`
- Nickname: Valgamaa
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It depends on your definition of good, but a mature process should have defects evenly distributed across the wafer. If they aren’t then there is a systematic problem in the process that the foundry would work to eliminate.
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## message-1423193124120821760
**2025-10-02T06:21:22.44+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1423193124120821760`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-10-02T06:21:48.051+00:00
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@Valgamaa What I meant is I recently saw some wafers ( might have been at IHP can't remember if it was those one ) where there was a visually apparent borders of a few mm around the physical wafer edge were obviously some of the processing wasn't done right up to the edge and so any die in that area would obviously be scrap. But I don't know if this is standard and how it is for GF180mcu specifically.
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## message-1423197263215460444
**2025-10-02T06:37:49.277+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1423197534037479514
**2025-10-02T06:38:53.846+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1423197534037479514`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-10-02T06:40:49.292+00:00
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I have compiled a bit of this discussion and will try to keep it up to date and be a little more persistent.
https://github.com/evezor/waferspace_die_sorter/tree/main/discussions/id_fiducial_other
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## message-1423215068606238841
**2025-10-02T07:48:34.413+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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## message-1423225135929753602
**2025-10-02T08:28:34.65+00:00 — Valgamaa (@valgamaa)**
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It seems to be quite normal these days that the steppers stay within the radius of the wafer with a small margin. I guess there is no point in exposing to the edge where part of the chip lies off-chip, that is a waste of time. This isn't (shouldn't be) because the processing 'quality' deteriorates towards the edge, just a practical limit for handling the wafer. Having said that, I did one see a bipolar process that used epitaxy for the base and growth rate was higher towards the centre of the wafer. This resulted in devices where each wafer had the full process spread depending on where on the wafer the die were taken from; higher ft at the edges, higher Vceo towards the centre. It was soon discontinued!
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## message-1423296567409901618
**2025-10-02T13:12:25.242+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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You can see the edge of a wafer in pictures on the website.
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## message-1423296675077947553
**2025-10-02T13:12:50.912+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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## message-1423296759110832128
**2025-10-02T13:13:10.947+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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That is a GF180MCU wafer
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## message-1423304452802085004
**2025-10-02T13:43:45.266+00:00 — algofoogle (Anton Maurovic) (@algofoogle)**
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Ooh I see my die in there, on the edge 🙂
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## message-1423305110053715978
**2025-10-02T13:46:21.967+00:00 — urish**
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- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
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Makes me wonder - if you chop the top corner off a TT die, would it still be functional to some extent (as long as the controller, muxes, power pins, the mux control pins and a few IO pins are still there...)
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## message-1423309388940312660
**2025-10-02T14:03:22.133+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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My dies are in almost all the pictures and very recognizable...
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## message-1423310732090544199
**2025-10-02T14:08:42.365+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@algofoogle (Anton Maurovic) - Really!?
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## message-1423310792920400063
**2025-10-02T14:08:56.868+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Tholin - Which one is yours?
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## message-1423310878174085121
**2025-10-02T14:09:17.194+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Tholin - You did send me the largest number of die 🙂
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## message-1423311305149780142
**2025-10-02T14:10:58.993+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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I put a logo on both my designs
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## message-1423311495604731984
**2025-10-02T14:11:44.401+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
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That’s what makes them recognizable
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## message-1423311797473120286
**2025-10-02T14:12:56.372+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1423311797473120286`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1423311797473120286
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**Content**
```text
```
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## message-1423312197232230551
**2025-10-02T14:14:31.682+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1423312197232230551`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1423312197232230551
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Yes
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## message-1423315500342968400
**2025-10-02T14:27:39.205+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1423315500342968400`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1423315500342968400
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I have a high-res here: `https://tholin.dev/content/static?id=E2zxGmncnZDV`
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## message-1423415584770490439
**2025-10-02T21:05:21.192+00:00 — algofoogle (Anton Maurovic) (@algofoogle)**
- Message ID: `1423415584770490439`
- Author ID: `1071653002986926112`
- Nickname: algofoogle (Anton Maurovic)
- User name: algofoogle
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1423415584770490439
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-10/2025-10.json
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Yeah, there it is…
```
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## message-1426502760643301467
**2025-10-11T09:32:41.277+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1426502760643301467`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1426502760643301467
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-10/2025-10.json
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**Content**
```text
@Andrew Wingate Here is what ChatGPT came up with regarding dicing saws
```
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## message-1426561597958000660
**2025-10-11T13:26:29.186+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1426561597958000660`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1426561597958000660
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-10/2025-10.json
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Cool!!
I clicked on all the links. Seems there is a lot of convergent design, I can't really tell the difference between any.
Wonder how true chatgpt's numbers are.
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## message-1441128186493665451
**2025-11-20T18:08:54.527+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1441128186493665451`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-11-20T18:09:37.501+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1441128186493665451
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-11/2025-11.json
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**Content**
```text
There's a lot that I don't like but figured I'd share some images.
There will be a couple banks of tape feeders the dies will be sorted into. This is a single bank
```
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## message-1441187458002845746
**2025-11-20T22:04:25.956+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1441187458002845746`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1441187458002845746
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**Content**
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@Leo Moser (mole99) - See above -^
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## message-1441305626855608330
**2025-11-21T05:53:59.606+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1441305626855608330`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1441305626855608330
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**Content**
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Looks nice 👍
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## message-1443391361851195402
**2025-11-27T00:01:57.58+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1443391361851195402`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
- User name: polyfractal
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1443391361851195402
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-11/2025-11.json
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**Content**
```text
reckon it's possible for a small handful of dies to get sorted out separately? I.e. I'd love like 20 dies to have bare (microscopy, die shots, etc) and the rest sent off to the COB folks
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## message-1443399195418689587
**2025-11-27T00:33:05.248+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1443399195418689587`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1443399195418689587
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I'm sure that is doable!
@Tim 'mithro' Ansell you agree?
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## message-1443399584847237192
**2025-11-27T00:34:38.095+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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I'd probably suggest cutting off a bit of the tape before it gets sent off or something like that?
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## message-1443399763683840181
**2025-11-27T00:35:20.733+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Yeah, something like that is what i had in mind
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## message-1443402391889383569
**2025-11-27T00:45:47.346+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1443402391889383569`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
- User name: polyfractal
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❤️ that would be rad! fwiw, would also be happy to pay for the extra hassle. just didn't want to splash out for a whole extra wafer 🙂
```
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## message-1443402942345642024
**2025-11-27T00:47:58.585+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1443402942345642024`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
- User name: polyfractal
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1443402942345642024
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funnily enough, that drastically increases my confidence of placing an order. even if the chip is completely unusable from my bad design (putting that at like 70% chance heh), i can still make a nice video about it with microscope photos 🙂
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## message-1443403228766011432
**2025-11-27T00:49:06.873+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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You're in the states and so am I, that makes getting a small thing to you fairly trivial for me.
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## message-1443409279993249843
**2025-11-27T01:13:09.598+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
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@BreakingTaps - There will most certainly be a bunch of assets useful for marketing and such floating around.
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## message-1443418751507759264
**2025-11-27T01:50:47.783+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1443418751507759264`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
- User name: polyfractal
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1443418751507759264
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good to know!
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## message-1443418830817857596
**2025-11-27T01:51:06.692+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
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- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
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guess I'm probably committed then 😅
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## message-1443442407667662989
**2025-11-27T03:24:47.851+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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Credit card time? 😛
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## message-1443582662890750043
**2025-11-27T12:42:07.302+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1443582662890750043`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
- User name: polyfractal
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think so! will get it sorted today 👍
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## message-1444097599526142144
**2025-11-28T22:48:17.763+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**
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- Author ID: `840182560252624916`
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- User name: logic_destroyer
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Which package will the GF180MCU chip come in?
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## message-1444098695804096585
**2025-11-28T22:52:39.136+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1444098695804096585
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If you get the bare die, you will get your raw compnents on 12mm SMT tape.
If you ordered them to be COB, you will get them on a PCB with mezzanine connector like being discussed on #📦-cob or the github https://github.com/wafer-space/chip-on-board-wire-bonded-pcbs
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## message-1446604192633585787
**2025-12-05T20:48:36.13+00:00 — Essen (@essen__)**
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- Author ID: `509798510170865675`
- Nickname: Essen
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- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1446604192633585787
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Hey guys, I have a terrible idea : https://www.govdeals.com/en/asset/23504/20379
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## message-1446604255245893858
**2025-12-05T20:48:51.058+00:00 — Essen (@essen__)**
- Message ID: `1446604255245893858`
- Author ID: `509798510170865675`
- Nickname: Essen
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- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1446604255245893858
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## message-1446768782499516416
**2025-12-06T07:42:37.412+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1446768782499516416
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Sadly -- Wafer Size: 2-4 inches -- I get 8inch wafers.
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## message-1448216421778853929
**2025-12-10T07:35:01.512+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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The SMT tape has been manufactured. We should have it in our hands in a couple weeks.
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## message-1448488513279627376
**2025-12-11T01:36:13.181+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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Hopefully these are the right size.
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## message-1448517294228639810
**2025-12-11T03:30:35.094+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448517294228639810`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
- Edited: 2025-12-11T03:31:20.48+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448517294228639810
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This is to scale, so looks like it
-# die image credit to @Tholin Looks great thank you
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## message-1448564976397848596
**2025-12-11T06:40:03.409+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448564976397848596
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@Leo Moser (mole99) or @Tim 'mithro' Ansell
When you guys get a chance can you share some of the outputs from https://github.com/wafer-space/reticle-stitcher
and/or `manifest-wsmpw1.csv` or `tilemap-wsmpw1.csv` or whatever I can use for die size/project/location/etc..
It probably would be beneficial if whatever this is could also be used to create a dicing plan.
Thanks
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## message-1448675584447217728
**2025-12-11T13:59:34.423+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Started a thread.
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## message-1448686739085594808
**2025-12-11T14:43:53.896+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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Still a work in progress, but think I have updated my wafer mapper to the new reticle sizes and die shapes.
-# I also know there is a dead area near the edges I need to account for
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## message-1448735743248961547
**2025-12-11T17:58:37.399+00:00 — carlfk**
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Somewhere @Tim 'mithro' Ansell said something like "same number of reticle shots, but the reticle is smaller"
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## message-1448735887340077180
**2025-12-11T17:59:11.753+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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reticle is the same size, we just can't use as much of it.
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## message-1448736019955585241
**2025-12-11T17:59:43.371+00:00 — carlfk**
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ok - does that might mean there is dead areas between the shots?
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## message-1448736116176982037
**2025-12-11T18:00:06.312+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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No
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## message-1448736200243286320
**2025-12-11T18:00:26.355+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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There are just some larger cut lines
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## message-1448736406267498722
**2025-12-11T18:01:15.475+00:00 — carlfk**
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something doesn't fit.
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## message-1448736506784120993
**2025-12-11T18:01:39.44+00:00 — carlfk**
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if all of the reticle was used, would there be overlap across shots?
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## message-1448737043801833704
**2025-12-11T18:03:47.475+00:00 — carlfk**
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is the size of the shot on the wafer constant?
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## message-1448743387644690493
**2025-12-11T18:28:59.965+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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The size of the reticle is 32000x26000, the size of the usable area is 30000x24000.
I think Andrew is aware that he isn't done yet, as he mentioned above:
> I also know there is a dead area near the edges I need to account for
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## message-1448904976817717289
**2025-12-12T05:11:05.826+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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No, I was only referring to the edge of the wafer.
I didn't know at the time the reticle was the same size, we were only allowed to use part of it.
I have an example here, the blue lines are still considered 'cuts' here, but I'll look deeper into that later.
At any rate the die locations should all be accurate now, thank you for the clarifications
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## message-1448909089047445515
**2025-12-12T05:27:26.258+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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## message-1448930715453362226
**2025-12-12T06:53:22.395+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1448930812220411965
**2025-12-12T06:53:45.466+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Forgot this repo was tied here
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## message-1448933119754506251
**2025-12-12T07:02:55.625+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Andrew Wingate - I /think/ the cuts will probably end up in exactly the same size despite the weird slot sizes around the corner......
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## message-1448933994631663616
**2025-12-12T07:06:24.212+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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There are extra 1mm wide dies that are on here that will not actually be dies, but will still be on the wafer.
@Leo Moser (mole99) said
> The size of the reticle is 32000x26000, the size of the usable area is 30000x24000.
which leaves 1mm around all the edges of *our reticle* but the reticle shots will still be spaced on the 32000x26000 spacing.
At least that's how I'm reading this right now.
I know there's some cleanup to do but overall this is correct yes?
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## message-1448934838680686673
**2025-12-12T07:09:45.449+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448934838680686673`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell
Is this a little more clear?
```
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## message-1448935051600597062
**2025-12-12T07:10:36.213+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448935051600597062`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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What are the red dots?
```
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## message-1448935106751238215
**2025-12-12T07:10:49.362+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Those are my pick locations
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## message-1448935338335670304
**2025-12-12T07:11:44.576+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448935338335670304`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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The green ones will be ignored.
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## message-1448935543701373018
**2025-12-12T07:12:33.539+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448935543701373018`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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better?
```
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## message-1448935867464024085
**2025-12-12T07:13:50.73+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448935867464024085`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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I ***suspect*** the layout to look like that original reticle diagram, with our portion of the reticle aligned with the bottom left edge of the reticle. That then means that even though we only get to use a percentage of the small slots the die still end up as the same size.
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## message-1448936326039863399
**2025-12-12T07:15:40.063+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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That's an easy fix, for now I'll just assume it's centered, but the patterning will still be on the 32000x26000 spacing, correct?
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## message-1448936701274755147
**2025-12-12T07:17:09.526+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448936701274755147`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
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@Andrew Wingate - Does carl still have the GFMPW-0 / GFMPW-1 wafers around?
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## message-1448937008897458290
**2025-12-12T07:18:22.869+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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I have this
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## message-1448937172848873566
**2025-12-12T07:19:01.958+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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Is that a gf180mcu or sky130 wafer?
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## message-1448937241857490976
**2025-12-12T07:19:18.411+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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I don't know, sorry
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## message-1448937522796302416
**2025-12-12T07:20:25.392+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448937522796302416`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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Does this help?
```
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## message-1448937664257458257
**2025-12-12T07:20:59.119+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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@algofoogle (Anton Maurovic) and @Tholin both have dies on this wafer I believe?
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## message-1448938036296552569
**2025-12-12T07:22:27.82+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Also, yes, I think @carlfk has one in his foop
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## message-1448938148099784805
**2025-12-12T07:22:54.476+00:00 — algofoogle (Anton Maurovic) (@algofoogle)**
- Message ID: `1448938148099784805`
- Author ID: `1071653002986926112`
- Nickname: algofoogle (Anton Maurovic)
- User name: algofoogle
- Type: `Default`
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That’s not a sky130, because it is too golden
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## message-1448938371740074037
**2025-12-12T07:23:47.796+00:00 — algofoogle (Anton Maurovic) (@algofoogle)**
- Message ID: `1448938371740074037`
- Author ID: `1071653002986926112`
- Nickname: algofoogle (Anton Maurovic)
- User name: algofoogle
- Type: `Default`
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Oh yeah, there’s my die 🙂
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## message-1448939394579955775
**2025-12-12T07:27:51.66+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448939394579955775`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
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I expect it will look like the following
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## message-1448939820326981652
**2025-12-12T07:29:33.166+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448939820326981652`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
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Lower left could just be the reference frame. There isn't enough information here to say either way.
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## message-1448940178302439597
**2025-12-12T07:30:58.514+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448940178302439597`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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Looking at it, I think it would be cool to get one of the small scribe type cutters and get whole single reticle shots. Mount them in a picture frame or something :)
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## message-1448940222724178051
**2025-12-12T07:31:09.105+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448940222724178051`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
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## message-1448940329888907315
**2025-12-12T07:31:34.655+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448940329888907315`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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That's the dicing plan?
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## message-1448940426659631156
**2025-12-12T07:31:57.727+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448940426659631156`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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oh, nvm.
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## message-1448940599289053275
**2025-12-12T07:32:38.885+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448940599289053275`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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## message-1448940761344381072
**2025-12-12T07:33:17.522+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448940761344381072`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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So the blue squares are all the same size even though we are only allowed to use part of those
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## message-1448940763705643051
**2025-12-12T07:33:18.085+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448940763705643051`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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```text
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## message-1448941570798780427
**2025-12-12T07:36:30.511+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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## message-1448941713438801933
**2025-12-12T07:37:04.519+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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Yeah, something like that
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## message-1448941790529847328
**2025-12-12T07:37:22.899+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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But I could be totatly wrong....
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## message-1448942134911565844
**2025-12-12T07:38:45.006+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448942134911565844`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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The real question is: are the green lines cut lines.
If not that makes my life so much easier :D
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## message-1448942363673100317
**2025-12-12T07:39:39.547+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448942363673100317`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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Probably not....
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## message-1448942464923865108
**2025-12-12T07:40:03.687+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Wooh Hoo!!
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## message-1448942484347686984
**2025-12-12T07:40:08.318+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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For future shuttles, yes. Otherwise it won't be possible to get more of the smaller slot sizes.
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## message-1448942567692570674
**2025-12-12T07:40:28.189+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1448942567692570674`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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Yeah, maybe in the future.
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## message-1448942582766768229
**2025-12-12T07:40:31.783+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Even for this shuttle I was thinking we cut the dies in the correct size.
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## message-1448942698420506752
**2025-12-12T07:40:59.357+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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I'm not sure how the bonding works if you need to go across half the die.
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## message-1448942913789759529
**2025-12-12T07:41:50.705+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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Yeah
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## message-1448943039287529492
**2025-12-12T07:42:20.626+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Probably it wouldn't work, because the bond wires would touch the die.
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## message-1448943392133480572
**2025-12-12T07:43:44.751+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Started a thread.
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## message-1448944024500306002
**2025-12-12T07:46:15.519+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
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So yes, we need to cut the green lines to get the correct die size.
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## message-1448944365815726100
**2025-12-12T07:47:36.895+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
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@Andrew Wingate It's a good preparation for the next shuttle, where we might want to add another cut here.
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## message-1448944702475997194
**2025-12-12T07:48:57.161+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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I've been reorganizing my code to accommodate these kinds of shenanigans ;)
I have figured
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## message-1448944876405129368
**2025-12-12T07:49:38.629+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448944876405129368`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-12-12T07:50:07.174+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448944876405129368
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we will start to run into some problems with the sheer amount of projects on a single ~~die~~ wafer, I haven't quite figured that one out, but am keeping an eye on it.
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## message-1448946421373079634
**2025-12-12T07:55:46.978+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1448946421373079634`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448946421373079634
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Solving this problem would definitely be the holy grail of shuttle services 😉
This way, wafer.space can accommodate the slots that customers actually need instead of the other way around.
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## message-1448946565690556547
**2025-12-12T07:56:21.386+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1448946565690556547`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448946565690556547
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-12/2025-12.json
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**Content**
```text
By the way @Andrew Wingate, when you have the time, could you also create CoB PCBs for the other slot sizes?
You can find the pad assignments here: https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu-project-template/tree/main/librelane/slots
If you want to take a look at the GDS, you can download it at the bottom of each CI run: https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu-project-template/actions/runs/20094869649
(Can be opened with [KLayout](https://www.klayout.de/).)
Let me know if you have any questions.
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## message-1448947020730728558
**2025-12-12T07:58:09.876+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448947020730728558`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448947020730728558
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-12/2025-12.json
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- https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448946421373079634
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I spoke with @Tim 'mithro' Ansell a bit ago saying that sometime after this shuttle has lauched to the fab, at least you, Tim, and I have a conversation about run2 and how we should position ourselves for best results.
This topic was one that's obviously on the list
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## message-1448947074291994686
**2025-12-12T07:58:22.646+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1448947074291994686`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448947074291994686
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*like a conference call or something*
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## message-1448951397419843655
**2025-12-12T08:15:33.36+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1448951397419843655`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448951397419843655
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Sure. We can do that right after the reticle has been sent out.
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## message-1449166636618747914
**2025-12-12T22:30:50.384+00:00 — carlfk**
- Message ID: `1449166636618747914`
- Author ID: `443147704126668801`
- Nickname: carlfk
- User name: carlfk
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1449166636618747914
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-12/2025-12.json
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell Miniapolos die cutter intro. Next week is the week we should go
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## message-1449564058633109656
**2025-12-14T00:50:03.176+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**
- Message ID: `1449564058633109656`
- Author ID: `840182560252624916`
- Nickname: asic destroyer
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- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1449564058633109656
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crazy
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## message-1450540280582377493
**2025-12-16T17:29:12.626+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1450540280582377493`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
- User name: polyfractal
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1450540280582377493
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any chance of getting fewer but larger dies in the future? or woudl that mess up the dicing patterns too much?
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## message-1450540498170282246
**2025-12-16T17:30:04.503+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1450540498170282246`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
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(or even the same number, larger and more expensive. I just want more SRAM 😅 )
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## message-1450543024122626249
**2025-12-16T17:40:06.737+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1450543024122626249`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1450543024122626249
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Well, you can start by using the 3v3 SRAM 😁
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## message-1450543218507780107
**2025-12-16T17:40:53.082+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1450543218507780107`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
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i did forget about that! is that in a working state?
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## message-1450543234781806718
**2025-12-16T17:40:56.962+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1450543234781806718`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
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_searches backlog_
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## message-1450543297323077663
**2025-12-16T17:41:11.873+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1450543297323077663`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
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After that you could do multi-die ? You have one die of _just_ SRAM and you bond it directly to your "compute" die 😁
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## message-1450543320777494642
**2025-12-16T17:41:17.465+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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chiplets FTW.
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## message-1450543437148455046
**2025-12-16T17:41:45.21+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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"working" is unknown, we'll see after this tapeout.
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## message-1450543535127527619
**2025-12-16T17:42:08.57+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Let me just clear a few things up: The photo masks are produced for the reticle, which is 30x24mm (actually 32x26mmm, but we can't use the full area atm). We subdivide this area into 40 slots, some are full size, others are smaller.
The photo mask is exposed and moved across the wafer multiple times to cover the whole wafer. wafer.space ordered a fixed number of wafers from GF, which means we end up with a certain number of dies.
Giving you fewer dies won't increase the size of your project, we would have to throw them away as they are produced anyway.
However, we can increase the size of your project by merging two 1x1 slots. This would be possible if wafer.space uses laser dicing (which we don't use for run 1), as otherwise we would cut through your project.
So, yes, it's possible in theory, but it would be more expensive.
PS: For this special first run, we actually duplicated all paid projects so that wafer.space could order less wafers, but can still fullfil the 1000 dies per project. In this case we could have actually doubled the area for your design and you would have received the half amount of dies. However, we still don't use laser dicing ^^
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## message-1450543913701212345
**2025-12-16T17:43:38.829+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
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gotcha, thanks! yeah the "cut through the project with a saw" was the part I was worried about, didn't think of laser dicing though. perhaps in the future after a few successful runs and wafer.space is solidly established 🙂
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## message-1450545157400432802
**2025-12-16T17:48:35.35+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
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out of curiosity, what's the order-of-magnitude cost difference for laser dicing vs saw?
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## message-1450545362560487546
**2025-12-16T17:49:24.264+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
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are they just nanosecond 1064nm fiber lasers, or something fancier ("stealth dicing" with femtosecond or whatever)
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## message-1450548971083661424
**2025-12-16T18:03:44.603+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@BreakingTaps - See some diagrams earlier in this channel....
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## message-1452538571662819460
**2025-12-22T05:49:42.346+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Andrew Wingate - How many retcile shots does a complete wafer have again?
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## message-1452538885593890937
**2025-12-22T05:50:57.193+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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I think only 20 full ones
https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1448940763705643051
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## message-1452539724890771549
**2025-12-22T05:54:17.297+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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Seems like you were saying ~28 here?
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## message-1452540343479308454
**2025-12-22T05:56:44.78+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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I guess I don't really know what you're asking
some of them may be just short of full
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## message-1452540891859390537
**2025-12-22T05:58:55.524+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell I guess there may be 28
https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1420230271302762526
I don't quite know where all my offsets away from the edge are supposed to stay.
I guess I was being a little too conservative
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## message-1452866337335410698
**2025-12-23T03:32:07.772+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1452866337335410698`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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We're looking to get some wafers diced and needed to get some drawings out for quotes.
Figured I'd share here with you all as well.
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## message-1453302106596446208
**2025-12-24T08:23:43.26+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1453302106596446208`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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**Content**
```text
Hey all, got a few updates.
First off, the SMT tape and reel components have arrived.
I hadn't realized the 13" reels come unassembled, which is nice for shipping I guess.
I'm also not sure anyone would be getting their components on these reels or not. There are a lot of questions in the air about actual yields, but a 7" reel would *barely fit* so am opting to design with larger reels just in case.
Got boxes of the pressure sensitive cover tape. I have attached some to some tape and think it should work well.
We also got a bundle of 7" reels, they were packed very pretty. This is likely how your dies arrive if you order bare dies.
```
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## message-1453302454245654538
**2025-12-24T08:25:06.146+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1453302454245654538`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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We also got the tape, it's 12mm wide and seems to be very nice.
I have a few chips from the old GF run and they seem to fit well!
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## message-1453315301734219776
**2025-12-24T09:16:09.226+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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But did you find any wire bonder that takes die on reels ?
Granted I only talked to a few, but they all wanted gel packs basically.
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## message-1453320709303435405
**2025-12-24T09:37:38.491+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1453320709303435405`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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@tnt - if they are only bonding like 10 or 100 gel packs work, but when it gets to 1,000 units things change a bit.
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## message-1453321127311966249
**2025-12-24T09:39:18.152+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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What is that last fan looking picture?
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## message-1453321509081972750
**2025-12-24T09:40:49.173+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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2 reels worth of the carrier tape came on paper 13" reels. It was just the look at it from the side.
Thought it looked neat
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## message-1453321535166353529
**2025-12-24T09:40:55.392+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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It also depends on where in the production pipeline they are doing the wire bonding. If they do the glueing with more typical PNP style machines, then tape works pretty well.
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## message-1453321744512450680
**2025-12-24T09:41:45.304+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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Oh, you're looking through a hole in the paper reel side.
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## message-1453321801605316651
**2025-12-24T09:41:58.916+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1453321801605316651`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Yeah, I've been hoping whatever we do, there's a panel that has 40+ dies. I have to imagine they can work with tape as it's a pcb?
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## message-1453322512250437644
**2025-12-24T09:44:48.347+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1453322512250437644`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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At the high end they pick the dies directly from the diced wafer.
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## message-1453322728017891348
**2025-12-24T09:45:39.79+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1453322728017891348`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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- https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1453322512250437644
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When there aren't 40 different projects at once 😜
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## message-1453327789028675715
**2025-12-24T10:05:46.429+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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Yes - that is the rub 🙂
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## message-1453329965662867522
**2025-12-24T10:14:25.379+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1453329965662867522`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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some more updates on progress.
I made all these a bit ago, but have note posted (sorry)
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## message-1453329986428735590
**2025-12-24T10:14:30.33+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1453329986428735590`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1453329986428735590
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## Tape & Reel Mechanisms
The goal is to support at least 40 tape-and-reel mechanisms, with the ability to add more in the future (including half-width or other variants). To keep things flexible and manageable, I’m avoiding putting actuators on each mechanism. Instead, the plan is to use a base-mounted actuator that can drive each unit as needed.
Since we don’t yet know how many parts each feeder will need to hold, I’m standardizing on 13" reels so we can handle just about any reasonable tape quantity in one setup.
With 40 feeders, setup time matters. Even one minute per reel turns into an hour very quickly, so minimizing loading effort is an important design consideration.
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## message-1453330332840624158
**2025-12-24T10:15:52.921+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1453330332840624158`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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## V1: Lever Pusher
This design is based on a lever-and-spring-finger mechanism I’ve used successfully in SMT feeders.
While it works well there, I’m concerned it may not have enough grip for a tape-and-reel machine. In addition to moving the tape, it has to deal with cover tape forces and the take-up reel. Additionally as these tapes will be used by others after we're done, we can't have any damage to the tape.
I built a simple prototype mainly to check fit and get a feel for how it behaves in the real world.
```
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## message-1453330673216786512
**2025-12-24T10:17:14.073+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1453330673216786512
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**Content**
```text
## V2: Ratcheting Mechanism
This version uses a toothed wheel to drive the tape, acting like a ratchet. A spring-loaded drive pushes it forward, and reverse teeth prevent it from backing up on the return stroke.
The current prototypes are very rough and made from inexpensive sheet material, chosen mainly because it’s fast and cheap for early testing (referred to by @Tim 'mithro' Ansell as “nasty fuzzy particle board stuff” 😂 ).
One issue I’ve noticed is that the drive gear may be a bit small, creating a tighter bend radius than I’d like. That’s something to refine.
So far, this design feels the most promising in terms of grip and overall robustness.
```
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## message-1453330901558886470
**2025-12-24T10:18:08.514+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1453330901558886470`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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## V3: All-Gear Design
I also explored an all-gear approach, but this is the least appealing option. Keeping everything aligned and properly indexed would add a lot of complexity, and it doesn’t seem worth the effort compared to the other designs. The feed gear is too big and more.
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## message-1454303431052234832
**2025-12-27T02:42:37.614+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1454303431052234832`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2025-12-27T02:43:16.604+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1454303431052234832
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Hey @Leo Moser (mole99)
Hope you had a nice holiday.
I made some drawings to get quotes on wafer dicing.
Can you verify that my dimensions line up with what we're doing.
Page 3 is likely what is most important for you.
Thanks
edit: add link to drawings https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1452866337335410698
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## message-1454340625938911416
**2025-12-27T05:10:25.566+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1454341922326843432
**2025-12-27T05:15:34.649+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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Discord compresses images a lot.
Link to full res [image](https://raw.githubusercontent.com/evezor/waferspace_die_sorter/afcb28c2b7aa59f7f469da0f41240433ff318146/helper_scripts/waferspace_run1_test.svg)
This now also exports a csv with reticle data and row/col
```csv
X ,Y ,RETICLE_SHOT, COL|ROW
-94.276,-12.092,S-4_-1,C8R2
-94.276,-6.998,S-4_-1,C8R3
-94.276,-3.171,S-4_-1,C8R4
-94.276,-0.94,S-4_-1,C8R5
-94.276,2.535,S-4_0,C8R0
-94.276,7.629,S-4_0,C8R1
-94.276,12.723,S-4_0,C8R2
```
I have been going through in my mind how I want to actually pick these.
I think I'm leaning towards `project x project` as apposed to `reticle x reticle` or rows, or cols.
Is anyone even interested in getting info on whatwafer/where their dies come from? Not sure how possible it even would be.
````
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## message-1454342861356011661
**2025-12-27T05:19:18.531+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1454342861356011661`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1454342861356011661
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@Leo Moser (mole99) or @Tim 'mithro' Ansell
Can I get these files that were used in the [stitcher](https://github.com/wafer-space/reticle-stitcher)
tilemap.csv
manifest.csv
Might be nice to just unify some of this
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## message-1454466906181472286
**2025-12-27T13:32:13.122+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1454467207588221220
**2025-12-27T13:33:24.983+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1454467207588221220
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add some more helper scripts,
Most notably a label maker so we can label reels for shipping and/or other downstream services
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## message-1454478786631565467
**2025-12-27T14:19:25.642+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1454479633742434417
**2025-12-27T14:22:47.609+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1454479633742434417`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1454479633742434417
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**Content**
```text
bare bones pick and place feature added.
I will be generating a few utilities to aid in this, like a mapper for the tape&reel machines and more.
Not a whole lot to look at in my viewer lol. So many paths
```
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## message-1454839507227644137
**2025-12-28T14:12:48.134+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1454839507227644137`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1454839507227644137
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2025-12/2025-12.json
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@Andrew Wingate I hope you had nice holidays too.
I had a look at page 3 of the doc, but I'm not sure how you arrived at the numbers of 0, 4, 8mm etc.
The die dimensions are 3932um by 5122um as specified here: https://github.com/wafer-space/reticle-stitcher/blob/105a0e45197eaa245cb68fc87eff127567c4bef6/reticle_stitcher.py#L25
It seems that you specified the raw project dimensions without the sealring on page 4.
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## message-1454839627469947041
**2025-12-28T14:13:16.802+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
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It is probably best to send you the stitched reticle so that you can take any measurements you need.
I can also share the tilemap and manifest CSV files with you.
However, not all of the designs on wafer.space are open source, some are proprietary. Therefore, I cannot share the complete reticle here.
If you could share your email, I can send you all the files.
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## message-1454997849543802971
**2025-12-29T00:41:59.884+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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> I had a look at page 3 of the doc, but I'm not sure how you arrived at the numbers of 0, 4, 8mm etc.
The original dimensions I was given were 3.88mm x 5.07mm
The original reticle size was 32mm x 26mm
Divide that into the 40 original slots that gives 4mm x 5.2mm as the absolute die size
Given the amount of cuts, this leaves 0.125mm for saw kerf and whatever.
I'm digging through all this as I'm writing this. So what you're telling me is that I never actually had the real size if the dies and the tape we just got wasn't made for the correct dimensions, correct?
I think the part the dicing house cares about the most would be the drawing on page 3 and what I posted here.
These are the centerlines for where the saw cuts. We kindof get whatever is left after that (although we may get to choose some different blade thicknesses.) Those numbers should be accurate correct?
```
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## message-1455154784444350598
**2025-12-29T11:05:36.08+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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I made another revision of the second carrier tape indexing mechanism.
I have the specific bearings on order and they should arrive in a couple days, but so far, I think I really like how this is turning out.
Should be fairly trivial to add a pushbutton of sorts to do the indexing.
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## message-1455290313932538012
**2025-12-29T20:04:08.828+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Started a thread.
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## message-1455961882669351196
**2025-12-31T16:32:43.292+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1455962154887938058
**2025-12-31T16:33:48.194+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1455962154887938058`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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I don't think there's really anything that can be shared with this one, but reticle data from wafer.space can now be parsed and put into the stream.
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## message-1458985503520194570
**2026-01-09T00:47:30.679+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Andrew Wingate - Bad news -- myself and @Leo Moser (mole99) got to see the mask GDS that GF is sending off to be manufactured and the layout didn't quite match what we expected.
We are now less convinced we know the right layout for how things will look on the wafer.
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## message-1458985996346720363
**2026-01-09T00:49:28.178+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1458985996346720363`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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- Edited: 2026-01-09T00:50:44.37+00:00
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Alright. The overall die sizes should be accurate per https://mithro.github.io/gf180mcu-project-template/
Their exact placement within the the larger 32x26 pattern should not be a problem.
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## message-1459086377466724479
**2026-01-09T07:28:20.902+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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@Tim 'mithro' Ansell So that means it's all been accepted for fabrication now ?
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## message-1459088661025919080
**2026-01-09T07:37:25.345+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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We still need to make a proper announcement, but let's say a cautious yes :)
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## message-1459090786896318529
**2026-01-09T07:45:52.192+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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We had expected the total reticle size to be 3.2x2.6 as it was back at Efabless. This would have left a 1 mm margin on all sides of our 3.0 x 2.4 mm design. However, the margin was much smaller than this (the test structures don't occupy much area).
Thus, it is not clear whether there is some spacing between the reticle shots to match the 3.2x2.6 size, or if there is no gap between the shots. Given the density rules, I assume there will be no gap.
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## message-1459090939346813020
**2026-01-09T07:46:28.539+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1459090939346813020`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1459090939346813020
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The die sizes are rounded to two decimal places on this website. You can find the correct die size for the 1x1 slot here: https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu-project-template/blob/01d1540414fefce2d3c8fca2086c425688fe389a/librelane/slots/slot_1x1.yaml#L5
And all of the other slots: https://github.com/wafer-space/gf180mcu-project-template/tree/main/librelane/slots
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## message-1459092013575180441
**2026-01-09T07:50:44.655+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1459092013575180441`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
- Type: `Default`
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I thought you were the one gluing all the designs together into a single GDS ?
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## message-1459096651070308394
**2026-01-09T08:09:10.32+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1459096651070308394`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
- User name: mole99
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1459096651070308394
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**Content**
```text
Yes, for our purposes, we are. That's the 3.0cmx2.4cm "reticle" layout. I'll post the final layout soon after I have obfuscated the proprietary projects.
However, we don't have access to the SLM (Scribe Line Monitor) Etest and reliability test patterns. These are normally placed inbetween the scribe lines of the designs.
So in our case, these structures will be placed around our 3.0x2.4 layout. That's why we were told that our reticle size is 3.0x2.4 instead of the 3.2x2.6 that Efabless had available. (Efabless did not assemble the reticle, but GF did it for them.)
As it turns the SLM structures don't occupy that much area, which makes sense given that they are normally placed inbetween the scribe lines. Thus the final reticle size is less than 3.2x2.6.
```
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## message-1459255076706320623
**2026-01-09T18:38:41.935+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1459255076706320623`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
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Yes @Leo Moser (mole99) I should have been more specific.
The exact placement of *our_reticle* within the *gf_reticle* is going to be whatever it is.
The spacing from die center to center on *our_reticle* is what I've been asking should be what I have drawn
Note these numbers are not rounded
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## message-1459497075677859965
**2026-01-10T10:40:18.986+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1459497075677859965`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
- Nickname: Leo Moser (mole99)
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Hi Andrew, did you see my comment here: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1454997849543802971/1455290401886834739
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## message-1460406593328775209
**2026-01-12T22:54:24.892+00:00 — GitHub**
- Message ID: `1460406593328775209`
- Author ID: `1419842560683151470`
- Nickname: GitHub
- User name: GitHub
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1460406593328775209
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## message-1462753406429954131
**2026-01-19T10:19:48.737+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1462753406429954131`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1462753406429954131
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Got some more revisions on the tape feeder mechanism.
I'm pretty happy with how well it works!
Also bonus, toolless cover tape tensioner/holder 🙂
-# There's more designed, but I have not fabricated any of them yet. more coming soon
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## message-1463050794486992916
**2026-01-20T06:01:31.575+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1463050794486992916`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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@Andrew Wingate - Cool!
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## message-1463051551638814722
**2026-01-20T06:04:32.094+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1463051551638814722`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463051551638814722
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-01/2026-01.json
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@Andrew Wingate - You shared a circle design thingy...
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## message-1463054126366720073
**2026-01-20T06:14:45.957+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1463054126366720073`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463054126366720073
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-01/2026-01.json
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**Content**
```text
Yeah, so. I was a little embarrassed to share such raw stuff. @asic destroyer may understand a bit 😜
When I design, I usually like to do things and learn about the design space. Lot's and lots of terrible things that are then used to validate small ideas and concepts.
Breadth first search 🙂
So this was one of the first designs and it uses 13" reels. I have decided they are too big and have since retooled for 7" reels. Quite a few iterations
```
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## message-1463054362921406567
**2026-01-20T06:15:42.356+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1463054362921406567`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463054362921406567
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**Content**
```text
I was wondering why that picture had all the reels in a circle rather than a square?
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## message-1463055238675173550
**2026-01-20T06:19:11.152+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1463055238675173550`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463055238675173550
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-01/2026-01.json
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**Content**
```text
The original outline for this project called for 40 unique projects to be sorted.
Since that time it seems we are wanting to have 1/2 and maybe 1/4 sizes which explodes the number of reels that we need.
Just a reticle like the one shown is already 56 unique projects.
@Tim 'mithro' Ansell is asking about these pictures, where I was taking these reels and attempting to see how many I could squeeze into the available footprint.
Here we have 60reels. For a lot of reasons I don't think this is a viable route to continue, but I'll keep posting
```
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## message-1463061131492069528
**2026-01-20T06:42:36.109+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1463061131492069528`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463061131492069528
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-01/2026-01.json
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@Andrew Wingate - Yeah I was wondering why that was layed out in a circle rather than 3 sides of a rectangle?
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## message-1463409903845511228
**2026-01-21T05:48:29.918+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1463409903845511228`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
- User name: polyfractal
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463409903845511228
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-01/2026-01.json
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these look great! Really nifty nice mechanism you've cooked up 🙂
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## message-1463410739569098975
**2026-01-21T05:51:49.17+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1463410739569098975`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463410739569098975
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-01/2026-01.json
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That compliment coming from someone who has made really awesome mechanisms, that means a whole lot.
Thank you!
```
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## message-1463411086513537078
**2026-01-21T05:53:11.888+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
- Message ID: `1463411086513537078`
- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
- Nickname: BreakingTaps
- User name: polyfractal
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463411086513537078
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-01/2026-01.json
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gonna be really neat seeing the final build chugging away sorting dies
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## message-1463411263903371513
**2026-01-21T05:53:54.181+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1463411263903371513`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463411263903371513
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Yes! Many 10s of thousands of dies
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## message-1463854295211573299
**2026-01-22T11:14:21.076+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
- Message ID: `1463854295211573299`
- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
- User name: mattvenn
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463854295211573299
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I sincerely hope you don't have a die mixup situation where you have to manually sort a big pile of dies!
```
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## message-1463856685188907097
**2026-01-22T11:23:50.891+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1463856685188907097`
- Author ID: `220639106915368960`
- Nickname: Tholin
- User name: tholin
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463856685188907097
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Question: why was a QR code used to mark each die with its ID rather than a standard barcode, which might be easier to read since its 1D?
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## message-1463859765326385349
**2026-01-22T11:36:05.253+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1463859765326385349`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463859765326385349
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Crazy how long ago all those decisions seem. From what I remember there were a number of reasons.
First was just that the original character code was too hard to resolve with low quality optics, so something bigger was wanted.
Second was just to have something that was easily machine readable from any orientation.
We also wanted this to double as a macro pin1 designator.
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## message-1463860940264181821
**2026-01-22T11:40:45.38+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1463860940264181821`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Lol, I don't want to think about that 😜 From what I'm learning about everything, it's doubtful that would be a realistic scenario.
That said; if there was a giant pile, it would be an interesting CS type problem with QR codes and everything @Tholin was just mentioning.
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## message-1463861138914672733
**2026-01-22T11:41:32.742+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
- Message ID: `1463861138914672733`
- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
- User name: mattvenn
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463861138914672733
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then you have to make another machine that can load the dies and identify them through a microscope
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## message-1463867302955974758
**2026-01-22T12:06:02.364+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1463867302955974758`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
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- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1463867302955974758
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Reminds me when I dropped a tray of mpw1 wlcsp on the floor ... and then spent like an hour finding them all ...
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## message-1463883977814179863
**2026-01-22T13:12:17.96+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
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- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
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yeah, I dropped one of those little trays and it was very hard getting them back inside with the right orientation
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## message-1463883994881064971
**2026-01-22T13:12:22.029+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
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- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
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not on the floor luckily
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## message-1463907491887976634
**2026-01-22T14:45:44.152+00:00 — Lofty (@ravenslofty)**
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space, as I understand it :p
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## message-1465459075947958549
**2026-01-26T21:31:10.619+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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I believe @Leo Moser (mole99) made the call about QRcode ID?
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## message-1465734979568009331
**2026-01-27T15:47:31.168+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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Yes, you can search the server for "qrcode" to find discussions about it.
It fits the corner space well, has markers for the orientation and redundancy in the encoding.
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## message-1465823240646824213
**2026-01-27T21:38:14.249+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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I'm not sure if it is working, but I was also trying to get a searchable public archive of the discord @ https://discord.wafer.space/
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## message-1467276906155085927
**2026-01-31T21:54:35.114+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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I'll share some more pictures before our meeting that starts in a few
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## message-1472134883278192701
**2026-02-14T07:38:27.117+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1472134883278192701`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1472134883278192701
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-02/2026-02.json
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Just got the test sliced wafers in today.
It's hard to see, but there's a lot of dies on there
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## message-1472136008312029331
**2026-02-14T07:42:55.346+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1472136008312029331`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2026-02-14T07:43:19.709+00:00
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1472136008312029331
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My printer has been trudging away making parts. The gripper is going to be how the maching grabs each feeder when it's that feeder's turn. It's used for stability and location purposes. More coming on that soon
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## message-1472136517806723144
**2026-02-14T07:44:56.819+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1472136517806723144`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1472136517806723144
- Archive source: https://discord.wafer.space/wafer-space/%F0%9F%8F%97%EF%B8%8F%20-%20Designing/die-sorter/2026-02/2026-02.json
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Also have the feeders more or less designed. Just a few last minor changes and I think we can start rocking on those. I've got some video, but discord doesn't like large files.
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## message-1472645319832633537
**2026-02-15T17:26:44.675+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**
- Message ID: `1472645319832633537`
- Author ID: `840182560252624916`
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wafers from run 1?
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## message-1472646786756645136
**2026-02-15T17:32:34.417+00:00 — urish**
- Message ID: `1472646786756645136`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
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nope, run 1 hasn't returned yet
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## message-1472735769406865590
**2026-02-15T23:26:09.534+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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We got some blank wafers diced so that Andrew can verify the die sorting machine.
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## message-1472923095881879623
**2026-02-16T11:50:31.646+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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## message-1472923241801842793
**2026-02-16T11:51:06.436+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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## message-1473440024979575016
**2026-02-17T22:04:37.147+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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What is the light blue circle thing?
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## message-1473440128113578085
**2026-02-17T22:05:01.736+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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In that first picture. I know its the reel in the second one....
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## message-1473441112608739471
**2026-02-17T22:08:56.458+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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I'm thinking of having a carousel that all the feeders are hanging on.
It spins around to index. This way also in the future we could just add another for faster/more die support
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## message-1473441203260489800
**2026-02-17T22:09:18.071+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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I'll have much more to show on Wed probably
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## message-1473563346849628376
**2026-02-18T06:14:39.372+00:00 — carlfk**
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## message-1473568519076712552
**2026-02-18T06:35:12.527+00:00 — carlfk**
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- Author ID: `443147704126668801`
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## message-1473570705017667634
**2026-02-18T06:43:53.696+00:00 — carlfk**
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## message-1473571538916737037
**2026-02-18T06:47:12.513+00:00 — carlfk**
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## message-1474833714562203811
**2026-02-21T18:22:38.637+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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Hey all,
I've got a number of components on order so we'll see how things go when I get them.
A few small changes, I think the chandelier will be direct driven, I have a motor on the way.
I made the first rev chandelier carousel thing. There's quite a lot of things I don't like, but overall I'm liking the direction.
I have made some changes to the feeders as there wasn't room for the toolhead with the cover tape where it was, so moved it back futher.
Probably a lot more, but that's what I have in my mind at the moment.
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## message-1474896358056919092
**2026-02-21T22:31:34.01+00:00 — asic destroyer (@logic_destroyer)**
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crazy
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## message-1476433721925304530
**2026-02-26T04:20:30.119+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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**Content**
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I have been trying to figure the best way to get the dies off the tape and a friend shared this video with me.
It seems I'm going to need to make a thing that pokes from the bottom afterall.
https://youtu.be/oeSME_ZADe4?si=8j41BsaHpf3qu-0T&t=30
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## message-1477582559998120038
**2026-03-01T08:25:34.46+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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So I think I'm happy enough with this design.
Again, it seems we need to have a thing on the bottom that pushes up the die from the bottom off the tape.
It also has a vacuum to keep the tape pulled down while it pushes up.
It's actuated by a stepper motor with some swash plates.
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## message-1479338151712391274
**2026-03-06T04:41:40.142+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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Lots and lots of printing. I am hoping to cut the real carousel and feeder backs tomorrow and assemble in the next few days
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## message-1479338397083504733
**2026-03-06T04:42:38.643+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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**Content**
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made the vacuum pusher thing that pokes the dies off the tape today. I think it works pretty well (it's not complicated)
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## message-1479338540293685418
**2026-03-06T04:43:12.787+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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more to come very soon
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## message-1479946675123388447
**2026-03-07T20:59:43.429+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1479946675123388447`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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**Content**
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@Andrew Wingate - I think I feel a conference talk in the making here.
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## message-1479946797341216808
**2026-03-07T21:00:12.568+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Sure, when?
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## message-1479946926630895927
**2026-03-07T21:00:43.393+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1479946926630895927`
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@Andrew Wingate - Did Crowd Supply reach out about Teardown?
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## message-1479946963607879753
**2026-03-07T21:00:52.209+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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talk.. not *call* haha yeah me too.
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## message-1479947018641346722
**2026-03-07T21:01:05.33+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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No word yet
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## message-1479947049255567452
**2026-03-07T21:01:12.629+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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@Andrew Wingate - Also maybe Latch Up? https://fossi-foundation.org/latch-up/2026
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## message-1479947163583647911
**2026-03-07T21:01:39.887+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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that's like the day I get home lol
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## message-1482479291575828481
**2026-03-14T20:43:26.245+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
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- Author ID: `384390069412429834`
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really fun to see this all come together, cheers for sharing all the designs and steps along the way!
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## message-1482499339128672388
**2026-03-14T22:03:05.954+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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@Andrew Wingate - I think we ended up with it being 500 die per reel? So 1,000 die is two reels? Is that correct?
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## message-1482503129747423232
**2026-03-14T22:18:09.708+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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I think when I did my original count I was using neopixels as the reference. These dies are much shorter so fit significantly more on the reel.
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## message-1482841853094006914
**2026-03-15T20:44:07.647+00:00 — nmz787**
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- Author ID: `376976238528692225`
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Do these dies get tested after dicing, so you can bin marginal/excellent performance or discard outright bad ones?
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## message-1482857967274692740
**2026-03-15T21:48:09.567+00:00 — Lofty (@ravenslofty)**
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I'm pretty sure the answer is "no", because I think die-testing is something very specific to each project
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## message-1482858070420754633
**2026-03-15T21:48:34.159+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1482858070420754633`
- Author ID: `376976238528692225`
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Nothing basic even, like edge damage monitor?
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## message-1482858146924859412
**2026-03-15T21:48:52.399+00:00 — nmz787**
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(perimeter resistor that staircases up and down through all metal layers)
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## message-1482858221155913780
**2026-03-15T21:49:10.097+00:00 — Lofty (@ravenslofty)**
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I don't think so
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## message-1486947881268023336
**2026-03-27T04:40:01.05+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1486947881268023336`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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- User name: anfroholic
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```text
Hey all, sorry for not making many posts, been busy building.
First up, we have a Ton of feeders.
When you say, oh yeah, it's just 40, but time adds up fast when there are that many. There's about 2k components in the BOM for all these.
```
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## message-1486948495306002542
**2026-03-27T04:42:27.448+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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And for the machine,
It's actually more like 2 machines, one below with the suction pusher thing that releases the dies from the tape (it's pretty sticky)
and another from above that will pick and place the dies.
There's the carousel over to the right that will hold 40 feeders and rotates to index each feeder.
-# please excuse the mess
More coming very soon
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## message-1486997022165958696
**2026-03-27T07:55:17.153+00:00 — Brian Swetland (@dnaltews)**
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- Author ID: `252198343764213760`
- Nickname: Brian Swetland
- User name: dnaltews
- Type: `Default`
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I hope there's video of this all operating once it's complete
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## message-1487680920063316089
**2026-03-29T05:12:51.118+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1487680920063316089`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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@Andrew Wingate - Random question, does the machine pick all dies for a given slot first and then all for the next slot, or does it pick all dies in a reticle shot?
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## message-1487681123936108687
**2026-03-29T05:13:39.725+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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I'm having it go slot by slot as changing feeders is an expensive (in time) operation
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## message-1487681338961035345
**2026-03-29T05:14:30.991+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1487681338961035345`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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@Andrew Wingate - With the rotation changing thingy for the feeders, I guessed that was how it worked.
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## message-1487849574944084099
**2026-03-29T16:23:01.575+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487849574944084099`
- Author ID: `376976238528692225`
- Nickname: nmz787
- User name: nmz787
- Type: `Default`
- Edited: 2026-03-29T16:23:53.043+00:00
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**Content**
```text
@Andrew Wingate do you plan to integrate any microprobes for inline testing? A simple perimeter resistor that hugs the seal ring can tell a lot about the health of the die (has dicing cracked it, how far outside of the standard deviation is the resistance which can extend to circuit timing skew, or gross shorts/opens). You'd need a kelvin connection (four terminals).
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---
## message-1487894368491933696
**2026-03-29T19:21:01.189+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1487894368491933696`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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There will be no testing on individual dies as they are all different and that would be very difficult.
We are making some test boards for a select couple dies that will be used to prove the wirebonding.
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## message-1487894527468634112
**2026-03-29T19:21:39.092+00:00 — nmz787**
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I thought the dies from waferspace are all identical
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## message-1487894637560594533
**2026-03-29T19:22:05.34+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487894637560594533`
- Author ID: `376976238528692225`
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from a given wafer
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## message-1487894773699182613
**2026-03-29T19:22:37.798+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487894773699182613`
- Author ID: `376976238528692225`
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4 probes and an ohmmeter is too difficult?
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## message-1487894822655229962
**2026-03-29T19:22:49.47+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487894822655229962`
- Author ID: `376976238528692225`
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sort test has been done for 50 years
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## message-1487894932348731462
**2026-03-29T19:23:15.623+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Every project is unique.
Most projects share the same pad ring (power and IO locations)
All projects share the same wirebonding pattern* (not perfectly true, but true enough for this argument)
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## message-1487895098573197462
**2026-03-29T19:23:55.254+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487895098573197462`
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maybe I am confusing tinytapeout dies
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## message-1487895149835980860
**2026-03-29T19:24:07.476+00:00 — nmz787**
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but in any case, "probe cards"
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## message-1487895230366617731
**2026-03-29T19:24:26.676+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487895230366617731`
- Author ID: `376976238528692225`
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or wafer bonding style microprobes
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## message-1487895234900918415
**2026-03-29T19:24:27.757+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1487895234900918415`
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All these processes are still very new, we're creating them as we go.
This is a good idea and will bring it up with the bonding house, but for this run most everything is still experimental.
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## message-1487895254198915264
**2026-03-29T19:24:32.358+00:00 — nmz787**
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all very automatable
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## message-1487895358871699497
**2026-03-29T19:24:57.314+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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automatability does not mean no work and no cost
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## message-1487895405097128088
**2026-03-29T19:25:08.335+00:00 — nmz787**
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right, just better yield to customers
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## message-1487895442774691850
**2026-03-29T19:25:17.318+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487895442774691850`
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idk what the cost savings would be to skip bonding bad dies
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## message-1487895474097881188
**2026-03-29T19:25:24.786+00:00 — nmz787**
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- Edited: 2026-03-29T19:25:30.883+00:00
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vs development cost of inline test
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## message-1487895807951896817
**2026-03-29T19:26:44.383+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1487895807951896817`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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This is a very proven node (GF180MCU) we are not anticipating many bad dies.
Additionally as these are all on mezzanine connectors you are free to make your own test motherboards and do any number of tests before you attach them to something else.
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## message-1487896047941451907
**2026-03-29T19:27:41.601+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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not that much
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## message-1487896061681860660
**2026-03-29T19:27:44.877+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487896061681860660`
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oh, I thought the die-sorter was for pre-bonding
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## message-1487896347838513284
**2026-03-29T19:28:53.102+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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I understand your argument more now.
No, the sorter is only for taking dies from the diced wafer and putting them into their own SMT reels.
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## message-1487896508077707346
**2026-03-29T19:29:31.306+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1487896508077707346`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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From there, some only requested the bare dies and they will wirebond (or whatever they like) themselves
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## message-1487896916338544951
**2026-03-29T19:31:08.643+00:00 — nmz787**
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is gf also dicing? the cracks happen at that stage, not all yield issues emanate from the foundry
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## message-1487897318228361336
**2026-03-29T19:32:44.461+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1487897318228361336`
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No, there is a 3rd party that will be dicing
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## message-1487897373186326639
**2026-03-29T19:32:57.564+00:00 — nmz787**
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yeah, that's my concern
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## message-1487897530183192747
**2026-03-29T19:33:34.995+00:00 — nmz787**
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not testing that they haven't cracked the die is... well... less guarantee for the customer
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## message-1487897593743671397
**2026-03-29T19:33:50.149+00:00 — nmz787**
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```text
maybe inline testing could be an addon service for later
```
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## message-1487897613520080978
**2026-03-29T19:33:54.864+00:00 — nmz787**
- Message ID: `1487897613520080978`
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thanks for the info
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## message-1487950285971132450
**2026-03-29T23:03:12.955+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1487950285971132450`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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@nmz787 - The general theory is that at this price the custom is responsible for testing things themselves when they get the parts.
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## message-1488214939230404619
**2026-03-30T16:34:51.209+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
- Message ID: `1488214939230404619`
- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
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afaik, bond pads can get corroded over time - is there a plan to ship them sealed with the little absorbent packets?
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## message-1488214989771903068
**2026-03-30T16:35:03.259+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
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- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
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I should take a look at some of the Efabless bare dies and see if I can see anything
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## message-1488215113440821279
**2026-03-30T16:35:32.744+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
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- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
- User name: mattvenn
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I hope I still have some at my office
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## message-1488362423454007397
**2026-03-31T02:20:54.188+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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I have plenty floating around that have not been stored in any type of good way.
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## message-1488362729176694854
**2026-03-31T02:22:07.078+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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The die will be in sealed reels. I'll probably be shipping the reels in a the standard vacuum sealed bags you get from places like Mousers/Digikey
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## message-1488521280914456748
**2026-03-31T12:52:08.758+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
- Message ID: `1488521280914456748`
- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
- User name: mattvenn
- Type: `Default`
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I took a look at some old dies from Efabless (~3 years old, in waffle packs, no seal, no dessicant) and couldn't see any damage or oxidation on the pads
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## message-1488699912169324665
**2026-04-01T00:41:57.768+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1488699912169324665`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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@Matt Venn - I think it is one of those things where it reduces reliability by like 2% which is bad for 100k units but not noticable for these small runs
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## message-1491031637759230003
**2026-04-07T11:07:24.47+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1491031637759230003`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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The robot has arrived in Singapore!!
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## message-1491455809572311121
**2026-04-08T15:12:54.911+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
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I still can't quite believe you're actually doing this!
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## message-1491456238528102603
**2026-04-08T15:14:37.182+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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Yeah, I want to see that thing running ...
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**2026-04-08T15:14:59.402+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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@Andrew Wingate did you run it on a dummy diced wafer already ?
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## message-1491456344681615504
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Do we have a choice?
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**2026-04-08T15:15:25.725+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Not fully, should be getting things going tomorrow
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## message-1491456603025834096
**2026-04-08T15:16:04.085+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
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well, yeah, you could use a wafer dicing and packaging service
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## message-1491456648555008204
**2026-04-08T15:16:14.94+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1491456648555008204`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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- User name: anfroholic
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Had some shipping casualties
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## message-1491456718847082647
**2026-04-08T15:16:31.699+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
- Message ID: `1491456718847082647`
- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
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did you bring a spare 3d printer?
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## message-1491457021600469142
**2026-04-08T15:17:43.881+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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No, we found this local service and they were very friendly and quick. They printed for us
https://www.additiveinn.com/services
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## message-1491598257720262737
**2026-04-09T00:38:57.196+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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FWIW - No sorting house is able to deal with 50 wafers with 40 bins to sort things into. The industry is set up to either deal with 1 wafer and 40 bins or >1,000 wafers with at most 10 bins.
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## message-1491598480454582424
**2026-04-09T00:39:50.3+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1491598480454582424`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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Basically the machines they use have at *most* 10 bins to sort things into to, because who would be silly enough to need more than that 😛
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## message-1491598586042126376
**2026-04-09T00:40:15.474+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1491598586042126376`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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So the way they sort 1 wafer into 40 bins is that they program the tool 4 times.
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## message-1491598880104513687
**2026-04-09T00:41:25.584+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1491598880104513687`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
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And as they need to pick a whole wafer before moving onto the next wafer, when doing multiple wafers they would have to reprogram the machine 4 times for every wafer. And the programming / setup of the machine can take hours, even though the pick itself can take only minutes.
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## message-1491599050288398408
**2026-04-09T00:42:06.159+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1491599050288398408`
- Author ID: `169786952432746498`
- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
- Type: `Default`
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@Matt Venn - All the quotes for sorting 40 bins come out to be more per wafer than the silicon manufacturing!
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## message-1491671794418061383
**2026-04-09T05:31:09.711+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
- Message ID: `1491671794418061383`
- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
- User name: mattvenn
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I'm surprised efabless didn't hit this, weren't they were doing multiple wafers into 40 ?
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## message-1491700987717750826
**2026-04-09T07:27:09.936+00:00 — bailey (@bailey8889)**
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Does Efabless/ChipFoundry's use of a single pad frame (same for caravel, caravan, and openframe) make things easier?
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## message-1491702003741626418
**2026-04-09T07:31:12.175+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
- Message ID: `1491702003741626418`
- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
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Not sure how that would help. Here the reticle is also sliced into die of mostly the same size ( there is the "border ones" which are smaller but all the other are the same ).
I don't understand why they can't program the machine to pick up 10 dies, then run the 24 wafer through though. They have adheside backing right ? so you can pick some dies and then remove them and reload them later ?
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## message-1491726185607069738
**2026-04-09T09:07:17.581+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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I believe they are worried about the risk every time they do the mounting. I'm sure it's fine for like every 99 out of 100 attempts (or even better) but that last one has an issue and everyone is like super sue happy in this space and such.
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## message-1491726682053279824
**2026-04-09T09:09:15.943+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
- Message ID: `1491726682053279824`
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- Nickname: Tim 'mithro' Ansell
- User name: mithro_
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They did a bit, it is the reason you got a smaller bunch of chips back then I would have liked and there where a whole bunch of undiced wafers from each run left over.
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## message-1492155030172598463
**2026-04-10T13:31:22.093+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
- Message ID: `1492155030172598463`
- Author ID: `492702620759228416`
- Nickname: Matt Venn
- User name: mattvenn
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**Content**
```text
got your wafers yet?
```
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## message-1492363417204297758
**2026-04-11T03:19:25.433+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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We have some wafers!
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## message-1492938067491819590
**2026-04-12T17:22:52.738+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
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How's the sorting?
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## message-1493073206129594509
**2026-04-13T02:19:52.3+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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A bit slower than hoped. The dies are harder to get off the tape than I would have thought.
We're pretty close though and need to modify the machine and code as the frames they're sitting on and the layout of the reticles are different.
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## message-1493090109346807949
**2026-04-13T03:27:02.341+00:00 — Brian Swetland (@dnaltews)**
- Message ID: `1493090109346807949`
- Author ID: `252198343764213760`
- Nickname: Brian Swetland
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are the Ls an artifact of the dicing process or just the first pieces you're removing?
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## message-1493107688970915883
**2026-04-13T04:36:53.65+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Just the first removed pieces. I was also thinking because these wafers are fairly tall (respectively) they may have been getting caught on the edges as well.
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## message-1493139983568207953
**2026-04-13T06:45:13.282+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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I'm surprised you're not expanding the wafer to space out the dies.
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## message-1493140488344043561
**2026-04-13T06:47:13.63+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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Something like https://www.youtube.com/shorts/USmGBEEa8OE
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## message-1493144104022835351
**2026-04-13T07:01:35.675+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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- Type: `Reply`
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We're looking into possibly trying to make something like that.
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## message-1493144501198262323
**2026-04-13T07:03:10.369+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493144501198262323`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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It also seems there are many types of tape. UV will release, stretching will release, temperature will release
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## message-1493144627522441297
**2026-04-13T07:03:40.487+00:00 — Brian Swetland (@dnaltews)**
- Message ID: `1493144627522441297`
- Author ID: `252198343764213760`
- Nickname: Brian Swetland
- User name: dnaltews
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this is fascinating specialized gear (they've got a more extensive promo video on youtube )
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## message-1493144967026049085
**2026-04-13T07:05:01.431+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493144967026049085`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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Yeah, more things we don't have just in an apartment in Singapore 😜
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## message-1493151209350103151
**2026-04-13T07:29:49.717+00:00 — stuart (@saladchap)**
- Message ID: `1493151209350103151`
- Author ID: `1184268085822238821`
- Nickname: stuart
- User name: saladchap
- Type: `Reply`
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Do we know what kind of backing tape is on these wafers?
Whenever I've seen division done (manually) the tape has been stretched as @tnt 's video example above shows
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## message-1493151303524815009
**2026-04-13T07:30:12.17+00:00 — stuart (@saladchap)**
- Message ID: `1493151303524815009`
- Author ID: `1184268085822238821`
- Nickname: stuart
- User name: saladchap
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1493151303524815009
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Also any videos of the robot in action?
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## message-1493151434789748848
**2026-04-13T07:30:43.466+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493151434789748848`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
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We do not know what kind of tape. Also I have not made any videos
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## message-1493151598980108379
**2026-04-13T07:31:22.612+00:00 — stuart (@saladchap)**
- Message ID: `1493151598980108379`
- Author ID: `1184268085822238821`
- Nickname: stuart
- User name: saladchap
- Type: `Default`
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Any idea who the best person is/place to ask re the tape?
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## message-1493151931823034479
**2026-04-13T07:32:41.968+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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Not sure, as I understand it, we never really had much if any contact from the dicing house. It was mostly handled by the people who helped work with GF
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## message-1493231032449892434
**2026-04-13T12:47:01.027+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493231032449892434`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
- Discord message: https://discord.com/channels/1361349522684510449/1419841819138854993/1493231032449892434
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**Content**
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For those curious, this is how the whole wafer is laid out and how all the projects tile across it.
There is a band that we were unable to use as GF used it for their own purposes. That is the blank spot.
Also not sure why this isn't rendering. I will also post a low res version that should show
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## message-1493231251488768182
**2026-04-13T12:47:53.25+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493231251488768182`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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Greyed out areas are places that could fit a few projects, but GF didn't even make shots in those areas.
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## message-1493233907301220382
**2026-04-13T12:58:26.445+00:00 — urish**
- Message ID: `1493233907301220382`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
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It renders for me
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## message-1493234077963391179
**2026-04-13T12:59:07.134+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493234077963391179`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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wierd, it just shows as a file for me. Thanks for letting me know
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## message-1493235837863854291
**2026-04-13T13:06:06.727+00:00 — urish**
- Message ID: `1493235837863854291`
- Author ID: `732347216412278825`
- Nickname: urish
- User name: urish
- Type: `Default`
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Any idea why GF didn't make shots in those areas?
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## message-1493236067158069370
**2026-04-13T13:07:01.395+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493236067158069370`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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No idea about a lot of things 😂
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## message-1493236285555343621
**2026-04-13T13:07:53.465+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493236285555343621`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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The far right side has a large area with some kind of identification or othe data
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## message-1493236524073095240
**2026-04-13T13:08:50.332+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493236524073095240`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Default`
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```
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## message-1493237226354769981
**2026-04-13T13:11:37.769+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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- Author ID: `596068704471482370`
- Nickname: tnt
- User name: 246tnt
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Probably just too few valid dies to be worth the time.
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## message-1493237335431577703
**2026-04-13T13:12:03.775+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493237335431577703`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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Most likely
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## message-1493247124492779581
**2026-04-13T13:50:57.669+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
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The "band" above our reticle is actually part of it. At the time, GF gave us a fixed reticle size which is not divisible by the slot sizes (vertically).
The band is not visible in the [reticle render](https://github.com/wafer-space/ws-run1/blob/main/images/reticle_white.png), since this one is without fill in the reticle.
Here's an image of the filled reticle:
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## message-1493247158357332130
**2026-04-13T13:51:05.743+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
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## message-1493247200095113269
**2026-04-13T13:51:15.694+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1493247200095113269`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
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There are, however, test structures all around the reticle in very narrow band, ~5-10 times the saw street width.
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## message-1493247241769582873
**2026-04-13T13:51:25.63+00:00 — Leo Moser (mole99) (@mole99)**
- Message ID: `1493247241769582873`
- Author ID: `323371864074485771`
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After the tapeout, we were told that we could adjust the reticle size to remove the band above the reticle. This might yield a few extra dies due to additional exposures.
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## message-1493864057613189241
**2026-04-15T06:42:25.987+00:00 — azonenberg**
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- Author ID: `812217062567051294`
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I'm mostly familiar with heat release tape but i would definitely try to figure out what they used
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## message-1493945841675927572
**2026-04-15T12:07:24.827+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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@Andrew Wingate @Tim 'mithro' Ansell Still waiting to see a video of the die sorting robot doing its thing 😁
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## message-1493946273911537754
**2026-04-15T12:09:07.88+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493946273911537754`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
- Type: `Reply`
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Sorting is underway. Still having a bit of trouble gettying dies off the tape.
Hopefully real soon ill take a vid
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## message-1493946478270353410
**2026-04-15T12:09:56.603+00:00 — Tholin (@tholin)**
- Message ID: `1493946478270353410`
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That’s a lot of dust on that wafer. Isn’t that problematic?
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## message-1493946733716312194
**2026-04-15T12:10:57.506+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Edited: 2026-04-15T12:11:29.646+00:00
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The wire-bonding place isn't super clean.
Also this wafer has been sitting out for days now. I hope not/don't think so
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## message-1493947822548979773
**2026-04-15T12:15:17.104+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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In the cob place the dies aren't out long enough to collect stuff I think. Surface definitely needs to be clean for bond to work but maybe they just blow air on it before ? ( cc @stuart )
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## message-1493948062421487666
**2026-04-15T12:16:14.294+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493948062421487666`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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These should be pretty easy to pick out of the reel as they'll be the first ~30 to come off
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## message-1493948145485217882
**2026-04-15T12:16:34.098+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
- Message ID: `1493948145485217882`
- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
- Nickname: Andrew Wingate
- User name: anfroholic
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The rest have been sealed in their transport carrier
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## message-1494567776898257026
**2026-04-17T05:18:45.739+00:00 — davidc__**
- Message ID: `1494567776898257026`
- Author ID: `514294570415030293`
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Random question (new to the server, just reading backlog to see what's going on) - why sort to a whole pile of tape feeders directly?
Might it be easier to pick to one long tape (in sorted order), with "padding" inserted between different runs of dies? That one long "master reel" would then be subdivided on a separate system.
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## message-1494620433830641685
**2026-04-17T08:48:00.13+00:00 — namibj**
- Message ID: `1494620433830641685`
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you are asking a good question.
I suspect it's because they're working on multiple wafers and wouldn't want one tape per wafer but possibly multiple wafers per tape, which requires seeking or multiple wafers at once or multiple tapes at once.
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## message-1494775740036812912
**2026-04-17T19:05:08.015+00:00 — davidc__**
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Thanks. That makes sense! I assume the COB houses wouldn't want spliced tape to feed from, so all the complexity makes sense.
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## message-1495063560894681151
**2026-04-18T14:08:49.855+00:00 — Matt Venn (@mattvenn)**
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How's them dies @Andrew Wingate ?
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## message-1495064094183653376
**2026-04-18T14:10:57.001+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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Got a few sorted already. We're under way
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## message-1495293349979226142
**2026-04-19T05:21:55.842+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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## message-1495303627709878393
**2026-04-19T06:02:46.244+00:00 — Brian Swetland (@dnaltews)**
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progress!
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## message-1495384514946400338
**2026-04-19T11:24:11.264+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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## message-1495667990610313287
**2026-04-20T06:10:37.129+00:00 — tnt (@246tnt)**
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Oh I didn't realize there was something pushing the die from below. I guess that can help with release since the wafers weren't expanded.
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## message-1499225503754616955
**2026-04-30T01:46:54.358+00:00 — nmz787**
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## message-1499249458922127470
**2026-04-30T03:22:05.715+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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I'm exploring options for dicing which would allow arbitary die sizes (or even shapes) -- but so far everyone with laser dicing is either to low volume for my use case or to high volume for my use case. My use case is roughly ~50 wafers with ~1,000 die per wafer.
Most people using laser dicing are doing so to reduce the amount of silicon lost to things like scribe lines and improve the economics of very small die.
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## message-1499269740391170192
**2026-04-30T04:42:41.194+00:00 — BreakingTaps (@polyfractal)**
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plasma dicing sounds fancy
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## message-1499283932334657667
**2026-04-30T05:39:04.817+00:00 — nmz787**
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I think it's basically DRIE
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## message-1499325211919515760
**2026-04-30T08:23:06.637+00:00 — namibj**
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Oh yeah that can do TSVs might as well use it to cut slots 😄
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## message-1499325875995283569
**2026-04-30T08:25:44.965+00:00 — namibj**
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> in irregular chip dicing, DRIE is used with a novel hybrid soft/hard mask to achieve sub-millimeter etching to dice silicon dies into lego-like pieces with irregular shapes.[7][8][9]
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## message-1510176929263911053
**2026-05-30T07:03:57.667+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Ok, I've done some testing with tape-stretching
The 3 images, in order; are 3mm, 6mm, and 8mm stretch heights changed by changing out the material underneath.
Under any circumstance I think this is worth pursuing if only for the fact that it tightens the tape up like a drum which should help to keep the tape from tenting with the pusher from the bottom that comes and pushes the die off the tape. In addition to the clearance gained from the stretch.
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## message-1510177006602686605
**2026-05-30T07:04:16.106+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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- Author ID: `756011607603019777`
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All this brings us to ask whether I try to incorporate the stretcher into the holder in the machine, or if we want to get a separate machine that does the stretching.
There are stretch rings that you can buy and these are the smallest in the 10" range and the 8" ones are too small. _I am not sure why this is... but that's how it is_
Looking at the ring inside the dicing frames we have been provided, we may be able to use the professional model, but it's still unclear whether it will work with the wafers mounted to the dicing frames.
We already have pneumatics on the current machine and all this is making me think that just having them stay on the frames the entire time would be a benefit and just have the stretch happen when we clamp the frame in.
@Tim 'mithro' Ansell
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## message-1510211603801309275
**2026-05-30T09:21:44.721+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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I think I proposed something like in machine clamping
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## message-1510362775375839414
**2026-05-30T19:22:26.833+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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You did! I'm still not sure how/if I can fit it along with the motion components, but it's looking more promising
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## message-1510437221889478787
**2026-05-31T00:18:16.265+00:00 — Tim 'mithro' Ansell (@mithro_)**
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I think I was suggesting that something push down rather than up... I'm sure you'll figure out the best mechanism.
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## message-1516284692750663703
**2026-06-16T03:34:01.959+00:00 — GitHub**
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## message-1517382048640274613
**2026-06-19T04:14:31.991+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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Next revision of the wafer holder/ tape stretcher.
I've thought a bit about the up vs. down stretch.
They each have their own quirks
I will call this one **up**(the second image in your set), there is not a lot of room around the pusher part and homing the machine is potentially problematic.
Pushing **down** I can't quite figure a good way to
a) load a frame
b) have the desired strength without becomming too bulky
Also both have issues with fitting motion components around, but I think those can be dealt with
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## message-1517382122862547024
**2026-06-19T04:14:49.687+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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I will print off a few pieces tonight and see how I feel in the morning.
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## message-1534811732059488276
**2026-08-06T06:33:52.346+00:00 — Andrew Wingate (@anfroholic)**
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The new component tapes have arrived.
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## message-1534931884918837323
**2026-08-06T14:31:19.02+00:00 — Essen (@essen__)**
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